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[whitewolf]

Good morning kentbob-happy holidays- as for BB- I go to Books a million -my wife browses and i go read BB and  then put it back- -if i see something that makes  sense i may buy it otherwise i pass and go to the tatoo mags and look at the beautiful ladies that have tatooed their butt-
take care  WW (ELB "speed of light"

[5thprofession47]

With regard to Robert Bussey. Yes, as Benjamin mentioned he has trained in and taught many different methods in the last 35 years. After RBWI he tried to reinvent himself in various endeavors. I was involved with a few always wanting to support my friend and teacher. In 2001 he formed "Bussey Style" which was the last version of his methods I was involved with. After that it changed to "Power. To Protect". Then one day the website said, "Bussey Combatives". Many of us who were black belts in RBWI questioned his choice of the word combatives.

I for one had been training separately in combatives under a different instructor since 1999. Bussey Combatives looked nothing like the combatives I was learning. It boils down to this, Mr. Bussey latched on to the latest buzzword, "Combatives" like many other instructors out there have. I didn't care for it as it really was just a name change. His methods remained core RBWI with a little less
emphasis on the fancy stuff. There was no mention of Awareness and avoidance, de-escalation skills, pre-incident indicators, gross motor skills, physiological effects of danger, hammer fists, chin jabs, face smashes, etc.

[michael]

Interesting Chris, thanks for the insights.

[Canuk]

With regard to Robert Bussey. Yes, as Benjamin mentioned he has trained in and taught many different methods in the last 35 years. After RBWI he tried to reinvent himself in various endeavors. I was involved with a few always wanting to support my friend and teacher. In 2001 he formed "Bussey Style" which was the last version of his methods I was involved with. After that it changed to "Power. To Protect". Then one day the website said, "Bussey Combatives". Many of us who were black belts in RBWI questioned his choice of the word combatives.

I for one had been training separately in combatives under a different instructor since 1999. Bussey Combatives looked nothing like the combatives I was learning. It boils down to this, Mr. Bussey latched on to the latest buzzword, "Combatives" like many other instructors out there have. I didn't care for it as it really was just a name change. His methods remained core RBWI with a little less
emphasis on the fancy stuff. There was no mention of Awareness and avoidance, de-escalation skills, pre-incident indicators, gross motor skills, physiological effects of danger, hammer fists, chin jabs, face smashes, etc.

I used to watch his videos (yup, i said video!) back in the early 90's. I liked alot of his stuff. I just could never get a handle on the growling

[5thprofession47]

With regard to Robert Bussey. Yes, as Benjamin mentioned he has trained in and taught many different methods in the last 35 years. After RBWI he tried to reinvent himself in various endeavors. I was involved with a few always wanting to support my friend and teacher. In 2001 he formed "Bussey Style" which was the last version of his methods I was involved with. After that it changed to "Power. To Protect". Then one day the website said, "Bussey Combatives". Many of us who were black belts in RBWI questioned his choice of the word combatives.

I for one had been training separately in combatives under a different instructor since 1999. Bussey Combatives looked nothing like the combatives I was learning. It boils down to this, Mr. Bussey latched on to the latest buzzword, "Combatives" like many other instructors out there have. I didn't care for it as it really was just a name change. His methods remained core RBWI with a little less
emphasis on the fancy stuff. There was no mention of Awareness and avoidance, de-escalation skills, pre-incident indicators, gross motor skills, physiological effects of danger, hammer fists, chin jabs, face smashes, etc.

I used to watch his videos (yup, i said video!) back in the early 90's. I liked alot of his stuff. I just could never get a handle on the growling

Lol, yeah a lot of people comment on that. What can I say. It was natural for him and to some extent, an alternative to the 'kiai' in traditional arts. Many of us found ourselves adopting that growl as we performed combat techniques in class. Good times!

[Benjamin Liu]

They did teach the palm strike to the chin, and it is the first technique on the woman's self-defense video in the RBWI series.

The growling wasn't as strange as yelling "YES SIR!" after everything an instructor says or clapping every time an instructor demonstrates a technique in class.

[5thprofession47]

They did teach the palm strike to the chin, and it is the first technique on the woman's self-defense video in the RBWI series.

The growling wasn't as strange as yelling "YES SIR!" after everything an instructor says or clapping every time an instructor demonstrates a technique in class.

The "Yes, Sir!" was pretty standard going back to the early 80's in Bussey's classes. It let the instructor know the students were paying attention and had heard the instructions. I still have students to this day who were training with me in RBWI 15 years ago that say it in class after an instruction is given.

Here is a video on Youtube of former RBWI instructor Devin Crinklaw teaching a recent seminar in Omaha. This isn't his school, he is simply there at the request of the Nebraska Academy of Martial Arts (NAMA). The students are answering up with "Yes, Sir!". Not too uncommon in my experience.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTZS_vzdYaQ


Clapping after the teacher presents new material is also something I have seen on many occassions while training with Michael Janich, Marc McFann and of course RBWI.

[Hock]

"...Clapping after the teacher presents new material is also something I have seen on many occassions while training with Michael Janich, Marc McFann and of course RBWI..."

For me. I would end that instantly. I even try to dodge the thank you claps at the end of a seminar. Don't call me sir. I work for a living. And don't call me all these goofy names and titles. The probability is there for self-ego abuse and probably there is plenty of it on the field. Its a bit disgusting to me.

Clap when you see a war hero. What have we done? What have I done? Nothing. What has Mike Janich done - film people, stand behind a camera for Paladin, for years and years? We've done nothing.

Hock 

[bmiller]

drove an hour one time to attend a hapkido class to decide if i wanted to join,when the head instuctor would walk out of his office and walk across the floor everyone would stop what they were doing and bow, he'd get something out of closet or storage room,walk back to his office,everyone bow again.seem more time was spent bowing to instructor then learning hapkido.

[Hock]

All that is embarrassing bullshit to me.

Hock

[Kentbob]

Clap when you see a war hero. What have we done? What have I done? Nothing.

Not to get too far off topic, but this is how I feel when people tell me "Thank you for your service", or anything similar, like clapping when we walk through the airport.

Kent

[5thprofession47]

"...Clapping after the teacher presents new material is also something I have seen on many occassions while training with Michael Janich, Marc McFann and of course RBWI..."

For me. I would end that instantly. I even try to dodge the thank you claps at the end of a seminar. Don't call me sir. I work for a living. And don't call me all these goofy names and titles. The probability is there for self-ego abuse and probably there is plenty of it on the field. Its a bit disgusting to me.

Clap when you see a war hero. What have we done? What have I done? Nothing. What has Mike Janich done - film people, behind a camera for at Paladin for years and years? We've done nothing.

Hock

In RBWI it was very common. But that was 15 years ago...

Let me be clear that Michael Janich is one of the kindest, most humble instructors I have ever met. He makes no insistance on clapping, people sometimes just applaud a bit after a segment to show appreciation of their own free will. Mike is so laid back and friendly when he teaches. I would never wish to imply he was in any way soliciting praise when he teaches. It's quite the opposite. He's "one of the guys" when we are training.

[Hock]

"...not to get too far off topic, but this is how I feel when people tell me "Thank you for your service", or anything similar, like clapping when we walk through the airport..."

And I understand that completely.
But for me, I would dislike that too and feel uncomfortable too and if there was another hallway I could dodge down? I would. Just weird me.

In certain, classical places I have been, some traditionalists say "oouse" after every teaching demo. Which can mean a number of things, but usually that means  -

   "ok, we're with ya," or 
   "ok , we're gonna work on that," or
   "ok, let's get busy, we got your demo,"

Hock

[Hock]

Just in the last few weeks I have become increasingly aware of an increase of schools with the interchangeable terms in their logos and titles...

Science
Scientific
Combat
Combatives
Tactics
Tactical

I see these are terms now used for even regular classic martial arts systems. Reborn! With just adding tactical or combatives. Same stuff, new academy name. New logo. That is the lastest fad or fashion. I guess "Reality-Based, Self Defense"...is finaly, FINALY on the uncool outs. And "self defense" - never a cool business name anyway-  seems on the way out too.

I guess, as with my clothes and hairdo, I will continue to remain the same and just fall in and out of pop fashion.

Hock
(I do wait to see my term "event-based" pop up as hip somewhere. Let's hide and watch.)

[noload]

I've used event based or even driven for years and years. But then I'm a geek, though a very cool geek.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Event-driven_programming