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Author Topic: 15th Century H2H  (Read 1509 times)

jaybo

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Re: 15th Century H2H
« Reply #15 on: December 21, 2005, 10:43:07 AM »

No doubt about the dagger fighting and disarm techniques no longer being of much use, you would get cut to peices in a big hurry with todays knives. But still things like the scissor hold, if all you had was a short stick and your foe had a knife, hmmmmm.

With all the modern armys going more and more to body armor perhaps one day we may again see some one looking for (The chinks in your armor) But only after the U.S. Goverment spends millons and millions of dollars and years of research to reinvent the Rondel.

Still it is a fun look in to the past to see how it used to be done.
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raswic

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Re: 15th Century H2H
« Reply #16 on: December 22, 2005, 01:14:11 PM »

Does the Army still do bayonet? If so that is directly decended from English pike drills of the 16th century. And talking about the dagger techniques, I saw a clip of Hock's special disarm. Awesome!!! but besides it landing in the pocket, that is a medival Rondell technique. There are alot of joint locks similar to what Hock does in that clip. But there are alot of things you would never do today. There is also alot of basic stick fighting in the old European MA traditions. Everything from 9' staffs to 18" kippen.
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jaybo

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Re: 15th Century H2H
« Reply #17 on: December 23, 2005, 10:55:19 AM »

I recived a copy of "Secrets of German Medieval Swordsmanship" an outstanding book, lots of unarmed techniques, very good stuff and I see a few techniques that are right out of Hock's CQC material.
Amazing how long the rear arm take down has been around and the straight armbar as well. 

I think I read where someone was working on a book about fighting with the Quarter staff I'd look forward to seeing that. The staff fighting techniques from the Canary Islands looks pretty impressive from what I have seen of it. 
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