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Author Topic: History of eskrima in US  (Read 1751 times)

misshinryu

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History of eskrima in US
« on: March 18, 2006, 04:05:22 PM »
Does anyone know who brought eskrima to the US or when it arrived?
I think I know. I just want to see if there was anyone out there who is as smart as me ;D
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Re: History of eskrima in US
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2006, 07:20:04 PM »
Quote from: misshinryu on March 18, 2006, 04:05:22 PM
Does anyone know who brought eskrima to the US or when it arrived?
I think I know. I just want to see if there was anyone out there who is as smart as me ;D

Popcorn and coffee ready.   Let the games begin.....

Thanks!
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Re: History of eskrima in US
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2006, 06:29:55 PM »
I think they are afreed
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Re: History of eskrima in US
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2006, 09:20:15 PM »
I'm sure given the various families and history handed down verbally there's several answers that would be deemed right depending on who you talk to.

I know it showed up in Hawaii back in the early 1900's with the Filipino immigrants there for work etc.

My guess thow would be Inosanto via Bruce Lee in Enter the Dragon.  There's no disputing Lee got his stick work from Inosanto...and the fight scene in that movie undoubtedly went a long way towards putting the art on the map.

I also remember reading articles in the seventies about Remy who also did a lot to popularize it.

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Re: History of eskrima in US
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2006, 09:31:49 PM »
Good start, Ninor, but it was earlier. Anyone else?
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Re: History of eskrima in US
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2006, 10:39:22 AM »
If you mean "brought to the general public" - i.e. opened up a school and actually taught it to someone - then my guess would be somewhere around 1920 (when Ramiro A. Estalilla started teaching at the Minneapolis Athletic Club in Minneapolis, Minnesota).

But if it was earlier than that - then I don't have a clue...  ???

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Re: History of eskrima in US
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2006, 10:53:29 AM »
A lot of old escrimadors were stickfighting in Stockton Ca, pretty early in the 1900's.. Quite a few of them are still around. Not sure they were first, but they are in the running.

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Re: History of eskrima in US
« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2006, 05:59:03 AM »
And now...at last, the Truth!

In Earth's Pandamonium Era, the Philippines was once attached to Asia, and Russia was once attached to Alaska by a land bridge. Filipinos migrated up and over and settled into North America, in an area now known as...Casper, Wyoming.

Once there, they immediately made a movie called "Sticks of Fury." It became an international hit and...as they say...the rest is Escrima history.

At least, that is what my Casper instructor, Juan "Two-Sticks" Olaf,  told me? He is direct descendant in this clan of the pure, original FMA!

Although in fairness..."Snowshoes" Gonzales does tell a slightly different tale...

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Re: History of eskrima in US
« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2006, 12:02:08 PM »
I think the FMA was around in the US for quite some time when filipinos immigrated here back in the early 1900's-prior to WW2.

The late Leo Grion in his book "Memories Flow on the Ebb and Tides" recounts his early days of training in the fields of Stockton Cal. prior to WW2.  In WW2 there were filipinos were fought for their country and returned to the US who probably received training over there or had training prior to going over there.

Angel Cabalas (?) also lived in Stockton and he started a school (at first with Leo Grion, and then they split) where they taught eskrima back in the 60's.  (Note: Angle and Leo might not have had a "school" together, rather there was some discussions or plans to open a school.)  Anyway they both eventually opened training schools in the mid to late 60's.  And Dan Inosanto trained with both of them, before "Enter the Dragon".

Then there was Leo Gaje in New York training Bill Mcgrath sometime in the late 60's early 70's, and Pat Marianis (?) in the upper New York/New England area as well. 

Remy showed up in the mid to late 70's and really helped the FMA get introduced to the main stream martial arts with the seminar circut.

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Re: History of eskrima in US
« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2006, 12:13:03 PM »
So Mike,

When are you going to tell us?  I've been waiting for an answer to this one.

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Re: History of eskrima in US
« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2006, 08:33:38 PM »
And I thought the professor had it all DHL'ed to his house. Boy was I wrong. As I told you guys in an earlier post , Boarman has all the answers, as he has all of his notes for the last 20 years
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Re: History of eskrima in US
« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2006, 10:11:07 AM »
Quote from: arnold on April 16, 2006, 08:33:38 PM
And I thought the professor had it all DHL'ed to his house. Boy was I wrong. As I told you guys in an earlier post , Boarman has all the answers, as he has all of his notes for the last 20 years


I thought it was a rhetorical question.....


".....7,107 islands in the  Philippine Archipelago, approximately 700 of which are inhabited."


Thus, 700 different islands will hold claim to the Filipino Martial Arts and their distribution to the world......

Some of the historical winner have already been mentioned...and the winners write the history.


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Re: History of eskrima in US
« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2006, 02:51:23 PM »
Quote from: misshinryu on March 19, 2006, 09:31:49 PM
Good start, Ninor, but it was earlier. Anyone else?

There were some Filipinos among Jean LaFitte's pirates in New Orleans in the early 1800s, and it's been theorized that at least some of them may have been eskrimadors.
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Re: History of eskrima in US
« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2006, 04:11:40 PM »
Quote from: Boar Man on April 16, 2006, 12:02:08 PM

Then there was Leo Gaje in New York training Bill Mcgrath sometime in the late 60's early 70's, and Pat Marianis (?) in the upper New York/New England area as well. 

Remy showed up in the mid to late 70's and really helped the FMA get introduced to the main stream martial arts with the seminar circut.

Mark

hello,

That is Amante "Mat" Marinas.

Remy Presas showed up in the early 70's in New York and was the guest of the Sayocs at their home.

--Rafael--
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Re: History of eskrima in US
« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2006, 08:23:03 PM »
Angel Cabales?  Gilbert Nino?

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