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Author Topic: The lesson of the broken stick  (Read 3740 times)

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The lesson of the broken stick
« on: December 02, 2004, 12:44:04 AM »

One time in the Negros Island, we had this canvass sack of all kinds of used rattan sticks and wierd, exotic wooden sticks. Ernesto Presas was doing some push, grappling move and a his lessor grade stick hit a hard kamagong stick block.

The lessor stick was not rattan and it broke in two, about in the middle, with that dreaded sharp end on each at the break.

Without missing beat, Ernesto declared, "And now you have two sticks!" and proceeded to do 6 count sinwali- the tip stab version - the first time I had ever seen it done that way.

I had the internal realization that the stick struck with the tip, the shaft and pommel. It would be important to break down the all the stick strikes this way, else you might miss a potential attack method.

Then I went through all the Presas Family double stick patterns (some 50 patterns), asking could these patterns work with all three options? Tip? Shaft? Pommel?

Some did. Some didn't.
Experimenting with the tip attack-a "saber stab,"
Experimenting with a pommel attack-the "reverse grip stab,"

...then they started to look something like the Espada Y Daga patterns!
HA! More science. More enlightment. More understanding.
Unlocking Sinawali!

Big day for me, the day Ernesto broke his stick.

Hock

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Re: The lesson of the broken stick
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2004, 02:11:32 AM »

All of us grasshoppers out here really appreciate Ernesto Breaking his stick. Thanks Hock.  ;D
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Re: The lesson of the broken stick
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2004, 01:12:53 PM »

Hi Hock !,

I'm also from Bacolod City adjacent City near Presas place,Hope to meet you if your here in the Philippines with Ernesto.Please keep me in touch.


Gumagalang sayo,

Samuel A. Ibe
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Re: The lesson of the broken stick
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2004, 10:37:31 PM »

Hi Hock !,

I'm also from Bacolod City adjacent City near Presas place,Hope to meet you if your here in the Philippines with Ernesto.Please keep me in touch.


Gumagalang sayo,

Samuel A. Ibe
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Re: The lesson of the broken stick
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2009, 02:51:51 PM »

For some reason, quite a number of drive-by guests have viewed this page lately?

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Re: The lesson of the broken stick
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2010, 02:18:45 AM »

It might be the Siniwalli angle or the 'what to do if your stick breaks' side of things that brings people back to this post. I really enjoy breaking down drills and every time find new nuances and teaching points. My instructor, Sam Corral, called it the 'Broken Spear' technique. An ancient Igorot was fighting with his fire hardened spear when it broke, so he continued fighting with the two halves. Not sure if that is true or mere suppostition.
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