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Author Topic: Tip up or Down?  (Read 2912 times)

Rob

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Tip up or Down?
« on: December 04, 2004, 10:14:25 PM »

Im not trying to start a debate, cause i havnt started knife
training yet.

I see alot of people prefer that there tactical folders
be made so they can carry them "tip up' in there poket etc..

Is this a personal choice or is there tactical reasoning here?

Thanks
Rob-
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mleone

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Re: Tip up or Down?
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2004, 11:40:40 PM »

I switch from tip up to tip down in combat.
I can go either way!
But when I draw I draw tip up. i can do way more damge that way!
i can go for the subclavian and cut down the back and around the lats to across the navel from tip up.

Honestly you will gain a comfortability on your own!
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Re: Tip up or Down?
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2004, 12:26:07 AM »

Hi Rob,

Good question! Sometimes this is a personal choice while other times the particular brand or style of knife will be designed to be carried one way only. If the knife is designed to be modified to suit the user's carry choice (a reversable clip) you can play with it to find out which carry position you prefer.


Hope this helps,
Steve
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Re: Tip up or Down?
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2004, 12:40:12 AM »

I switch from tip up to tip down in combat.
I can go either way!
But when I draw I draw tip up. i can do way more damge that way!
i can go for the subclavian and cut down the back and around the lats to across the navel from tip up.

Honestly you will gain a comfortability on your own!
 :)

I believe Rob was refering to the actual carry position of a tactical folder. However, let's analyze grip switching since you brought it up.

As has been pointed out in the "knife forward or back" thread the situation will dictate body positioning just as it will dictate the grip. If the knife is carried to be drawn a certain way (either tip up or tip down, or blade in or blade out) that is most likely how the knife will be deployed and used. If during the chaotic struggle of a knife assault you are lucky enough to disarm the attacker then you will likely employee the knife in whatever grip you happen to have. Under the chaotic and ballistic stress of a real assault it is unlikely that there will be the time or convenience to grip switch at will. There might be specific moments where such a feat is possible, such as if you have time to tactically retreat (while grip switching) or when the attacker is down and nearly unconscious.

In short, grip switch training helps the student familiarize themselvse with the knife, how it can be deployed and how it can be held. It's not necessarily something to be used in the heat of a full-on assault.


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Rob

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Re: Tip up or Down?
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2004, 05:22:20 AM »

Appreciate the replies.
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