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[D. McLemore]

   Hoch, I just can't keep my mouth shut on this one. I think everyone needs to make a clear distinction on that generic term of fencing.  What most of us think of is what we see today as sport fencing. It's a differenct 'Dog' than what you find in some of the old Historic manuals that taught for all practical purpose 'Dueling'.  Also understand that the Rapier & Dagger was also used in many a brawling scenario that looked nothing like the measued positions on the dueling ground. Remember Sport Fensing is  a sport like kendo and has little resemblance to the true historic methods of fighting.  Nothing wrong with training in these 'Sports' there are some really great advantages to them, just keep them in perspective and don't fool yourself into thinking that it has a lot of great  combative application.  As to what some people call 'dueling' well, you just don't see a lot of that these days. Consider the situation where a couple of home boys block your car in a tight parking place. You get out to ask them to move and they get out of their car with baseball bats. You take out your clunky combat folder and like it or not you are in a dueling situation for a few seconds.  My point, study it, learn to fight at medium range (dueling) and practice it regularly for that type of skill perishes quick. To me it's all about balance in training not this or that techniques being the best. In todays world I think the priority for training should be to work the really close quarter and ground techniques against single and multiple opponents. I've been doing some research on countering take-down by two or three opponents in sort of a counter capture type of scenario.  This has caused me to rethink a lot of my ideas.  So that's my two cents on this.

Best
Dwight

[Mr. Barnett]

No one has taken Fencing further and with more study than Dwight C. McLemore.
His  Lifes work, "Paradoxes of a Deadly Myth" encompases traditional european foot and bladework, and modern SFC techniques, and puts it together to form a coherent package that addresses the duel.  A duellist will have this work in their library, and SFC man will too.
He has a video also.  His training support package will put all Fencing issues to rest if you can extract the info and what he teaches.  Train with him if you can.
 
Gerald.

[Hock]

Dwight's Bowie knife fighting is not sports fencing. As with all fighting, things look like each other, and look at times, parts may look like sports fencing. It simple touches the essence of combat.

Just for one thing, Dwight does not have the sporty point-winning, suicide thrusts that fencing has.

http://www.hockscqc.com/shop/dwight_mclemore-bowie-knife.html

Hock

[ghostrider]

From what I gather as to what is being said...the confusion lays in the mix, and that is the rub. With so many styles(thousands) and systems(more thousands), add to that the mixture of human emotion with not wanting to be wrong in what they teach. Now you have a one-sided look at a fight. What goes on in a real honest to goodness FIGHT? Fight, fighting, beating up someone, whopping them hard and fast, etc. You name it! The point here is the fight itself broke down to its simplest(is it really simple?) level. Everyone has an opinion until the storm hits. Unless you have been there and have seen the elephant then you just don't know. Unless, you train under and with the advise of those who have seen the elephant. Remember a few years ago when Tae kwon do was all the rage. Korean black belts at 1st degree suddenly became masters on board the airliner.
It's a sad fact that because there is no defining factor that too many people are fighting experts after training in a style of martial arts and in turn they teach like they have been in the "storm." I guess the only defining factor is real life. Walking the line and being in the middle of the "storm." Unless of course you are fortunate to train under good solid people who have been there and can advise you to how it really is.
It's too bad that egos prevail when it comes to learning. Too many people don't like to be showed up or come back to the basic level of a beginner, admitting that they could use more instruction.
The person who admits they could always use more instruction is a person who is willing to learn. Walking around with an enlarged ego is a sure fire way to found yourself on the floor looking up.

[R Redus]

RRedus                                                                                                                                               Hoch's knife is an excellent system, I had the oppurtunity to train w/ a dedicated partner for over a year and a half in this system and have had training in pekiti-tirsia,both very good systems.           I beleive to learn more, its agood idea to go at it in fencing masks w/ wrapped foam for full contact, using the techniques you have studied for over a year at least. Then you will learn what you personally can pull off in a real encounter-nothing likie a good full speed field test to show you whats real and whats fluff.Things that you think might be Real could get you killed. I realize it is an individual thing too, we all have differant skill sets, timing and speed. For me corto is not a place to get comfortable no matter how many drills you do.