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Author Topic: girl fight with a knife  (Read 763 times)

vitality

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girl fight with a knife
« on: July 01, 2006, 12:42:45 PM »

i'm sure some have seen this. I f you have not its  a good one.

hope everybody is well.

http://www.videovat.com/videos/1800/knife-stabbing-weapons.aspx
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Hock

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Re: girl fight with a knife
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2006, 12:55:50 PM »

HAIR!

Long hair!

the great handle in a real fight!

Hock

Kentbob

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Re: girl fight with a knife
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2006, 01:34:49 PM »

That's definitely chaotic.  Craziness!


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mleone

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Re: girl fight with a knife
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2006, 02:30:59 PM »

I dont think there was much time for the girl getting kicked to even think.....

Too chaotic...
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misshinryu

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Re: girl fight with a knife
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2006, 10:12:28 PM »

HAIR!

Long hair!

the great handle in a real fight!

Hock

Hair! Long beautiful hair.
Shine it.
Glean it
Clean it flax it wax it
Give me down to there
Hair
Shoulder length or longer
Hair

Enough of the rock opera Hair. And your point is Hock? Ok. You are right.

Almost cut my hair l
Happen just the other night
Its getting knd of long

Enough with the Crosby Stills and Nash. And your point is... 8)
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Re: girl fight with a knife
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2006, 07:57:45 AM »

Points learned (well, re-learned)....

- Difficult to draw knife under stress esp. when you don't train to do so
 
- If you're gonna stab, don't do it just once it keep the blade stuck into   the target. Mulitible stabs or a single thrust followed by ripping movements INSIDE the target

- stomping kicks will probably help keep the oponent down better that toe or instep kicks

- DON'T HAVE LONG HAIR. One thing the BJJ guys got right.
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ee4uandme

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Re: girl fight with a knife
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2006, 11:13:42 AM »

Hair pulling was affective but I don't think much damage was inflicted. The attacker spent most of the time punching the top and back of the skull and deployed weak kicks from her lower leg, no real power there from what I could tell. My comments are supported by the how mobile the girl being attacked was. If it wasn't for her long hair, the huge group of people ensuring that they couldn't get away and the volley ball net I bet she could have gotten away : ).

I liked how the girl being attacked instinctively tried to switch the hand she was using to hold the knife when they tried ot disarm her.

Pretty Crazy to watch!

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Re: girl fight with a knife
« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2006, 07:16:23 AM »

Yet another reason why cousins shouldnt marry.
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kamagong

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Re: girl fight with a knife
« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2006, 08:36:48 AM »

Just goes to show you, when the girl on top didn't know the other girl had a knife (which it didn't seem she did till the guy came up to see what she had in her hand) she had no prob beating her down.  The girl on bottom was kept off balance and was not able to get any real slashing or puncturing done, plus the girl on top had jeans on.  If the blade was not really sharp it didn't really penetrate too well. 

Perhaps if she had flashed the knife and let the other girl see she was armed then things may have gone differently.  Attacker may have let go, backed off and created space.  But, in the melle of the fight she smothered the girl and wouldn't let up.  I wish "you can't do that" anti-knife fighting proponents would watch this and footage like it so they can see how this stuff really goes.  Like Hock says, "I pity the poor knife instructor!"  :D

I call this the "Taking candy from a baby" Drill:  A has a soft training knife, B comes in hard and fast hands and arms out trying to smother A's knife arm and grab it no matter what A does.  B should end up so close applying pressure that A almost goes over.  Watch how hard it is to slash B with much effective once B passes the "Goldilocks Zone" (not too far out, not too close, just right for optimal cutting).  I am sure most of you guys have done this before and call the drill something else but it is good for new folks to do.  I call it taking candy from a baby because if you have kids and have ever tried taking candy from them, it looks a lot like this.  Just my .02  :)
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