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[Vrkah]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIkZAfrFAeU

seems like this are free fight drills transfered to fma.
like it realy much, because they go for it -> all ranges, all weapons!
also check out the other vids made by the same guys.

your opinion?

Vale!
Vrkah

[Milldog1776]

Just working some Combat Scenarios. Semi choreographed, Semi-Free Flow.

We do these in the Congress. Some of us also listen to that kind of music. I prefer Nugent, myself.

[kamagong]

I gotta agree Milldog, It looks just like combat scenarios  that are done in Congress material and classes.  It is easy to slip these scenarios into your drills at different places, and in free flow in different places and I think you should as soon as possible.  I prefer Rob Zombie, Brent Lewis, or Metallica for workouts, but, hey that is just me!  By the way Mill, when are you going to train in the Phillippines?

[Milldog1776]

I'll be spending the Christmas and New Year's holidays over there.

According to my wife, Christmas time is also called Fiesta. There will be a huge block party with roasted pig, games, and such. Sounds great!

[Joe Hubbard]

Notice how this guy just loves going into that Japanese lying armbar.  Guess he hasn't been in many fights.

Ciao

Joe

[Hock]

Has the overuse of the Japanese armbar finally gone the way of the dino? (as we knew in 1992?)

I remember an article in a martial arts magazine I read, oh about 1995 about a Karate author who had a photo series in the story which involved the Japanese Armbar and the text under the photo read" Few know that Karate has ground fighting too" and of course, the sensei showed...this armbar...
"We do that too!" Me too!" is the message. But I realy doubt that was in their original system.

I knew then and there the armbar was shown too much and had become a touchstone for change....

Hock

[Vrkah]

Well,that wohle thing wasn't about the armbar.it was about: "hey, there is a good drill in mma/karate/jkd, lets see hiow it works in fma."
i've never seen the sfc's combat scenarios, so i could not compare these two.
i don't like the armabr either, because its dengerously close to the family jewels and that could prove very unwise in a streetfight. maybe so, maybe not... but i like to protect them :-)

vrkah

[Hock]

But aside form the armbar comentary...and on the clip

That is exactly what we have been doing for decades.

These are the combat scenarios that say...Ernesto Presas wanted for decades as an end product of a fight, maybe less dropping to the ground on prupose. No Japanese armbars were ever taught. 

That is a choreographed, practice version of what the Dog Brothers hope to see in the park.

The drill pattern IS MEANT to be interrupted. The study and practice of the drill is to create the interruptions from motion.
When people over-study the drill, the drill loses its whole purpose.

And  a really good head shot could drop the ol' boy down right there no grappling needing at all.

Hock

[Crazyguywithasword]

I don't really see the point of much of what they were doing....beyond being duel oriented, a lot of the time the "opponent" just stoodthere and let the guy smack the shit out of him...it looked like he was fighting a brain dead mannequin....

[Milldog1776]

I don't really see the point of much of what they were doing....beyond being duel oriented, a lot of the time the "opponent" just stoodthere and let the guy smack the shit out of him...it looked like he was fighting a brain dead mannequin....

Because combat scenarios are "semi-choreographed". It's like running scrimmage if you were a football player.

Training against fully resisting opponents all the time does not lend proper success to certain techniques.

[Crazyguywithasword]

I didn't say all the time, Im just saying that if a guy can do all that, then isn't he ready to be going fuller speed? I dont think hes learning anything but attacking someone with such unnatural reactions to his blows.

[Vrkah]

I found this vid on the FMA-FORUM. the guy in the video also writes there. if you want i could send him an invitation to join this forum and we could ask him in person.

i just lieked the idea of beeing oopen minded and trying something different, something thats not necessarily included in your art. wouldn't hurt some martial artists to do that (i know, thats what the sfc is doing for years....).

vrkah

[Hock]

Oh...you don't have to ask him jusy for that.

Actually when training partners do a little acting in scenarios? More than often thay are just not good actors! It looks a bit awkward and viewers start scratching their heads and asking these "reality" questions.

Hock