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Author Topic: Karambit training  (Read 3833 times)

mickt

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Karambit training
« on: February 19, 2007, 09:24:14 AM »

I just picked up karambit for the collection.  Just wondering where to get some good training, seen some stuff on the internet but can't tell
whats good.  Any info would be great to know.

Thanks Mick T.
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cannibalcombat

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Re: Karambit training
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2007, 11:19:04 AM »

The Kerambit is not my favorite, but if you want instruction from those that use it well, I can think of two instructors.

Ray Dionaldo - FCS Kali  -  Google the name or art.  IMHO he offers the best instruction for the kerambit

Steve Tarani - He has a book on the subject and a video. 

Hope that helps,

Mike
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Nick Hughes

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Re: Karambit training
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2007, 12:06:14 PM »

I would second the above....the man to go to is Ray Dianaldo.  Do a you tube search and you can find the clips.  None better when it comes to the Kerambit.

I'm not a fan myself either...it's a glorified carpet knife as far as I'm concerned but Ray feels exactly the opposite and is unbelievable to watch when wielding it, or any blade.

Nick
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Re: Karambit training
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2007, 12:42:42 PM »

I trained the Kerambit years ago with Tuhon Ray as well as other Silat systems heads who showed me silat methods. I developed a mix of silat and fillipino methods.
If you like it as a fun weapon he is the person to talk too.
Tuhon Ray is a great guy...
For reality its lack of thrusting methods always gets to me. Fun for class, for realism I'd think twice.
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mickt

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Re: Karambit training
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2007, 09:48:17 PM »

Hey Hock.

I though I heard you say something like the last time you were at McCann's gym.

Well I'll just have one in the collection.

Thanks everyone for the info.

Mick T
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mercop

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Re: Karambit training
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2007, 10:01:56 AM »

I do carry a EKI Kerambit reverse grip reaction side, but besides that one draw and use don't dedicate a huge ammount of time to the Kerambit as a system.

For those of you who like the Kerambit, overall where do you rate it on the knife scale of 1-10?  Wondering if I need to put more time into it.
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Re: Karambit training
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2007, 11:54:27 AM »

I do carry a EKI Kerambit reverse grip reaction side, but besides that one draw and use don't dedicate a huge ammount of time to the Kerambit as a system.

For those of you who like the Kerambit, overall where do you rate it on the knife scale of 1-10?  Wondering if I need to put more time into it.


   The subjects been done a few times, you can dig around in the Knife Combat Forum and look here also http://hockscombatforum.com/index.php?topic=2363.0 if the link will work. Just try a search on the usual names associated Karambits and such.


    Even a single shot shotgun can be a great and effective weapon but when you have money and choices I doubt if many would prefer it, Same with the karambit or other extremely curved blades. While people at times have disagreed to the extreme on this forum I have not to date seen anyone argue for a karambit and against a double edged boot knife with a decent guard and frankly I would be a little surprised if anyone did.
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Re: Karambit training
« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2007, 07:11:19 PM »

karambits make great back scratchers.  :D
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Re: Karambit training
« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2007, 08:00:28 PM »

Well...you all know how I feel about the odd-shaped knives and other "Klingon" Knives....

When God made the knife, he made it straight to maximize its full potential.

"Hochheim System Karembit Training instructions"

  1) Take karembit.

   2) Walk to nearest trash can.

    3) Lift Lid

     4) Deposit curved bladed knife.

      5) Close lid.

       6) Try to forget about this little gimmick knife and its, "you do have-to-train-
            and-work-extra-to-use," curved knife....

        7) Make personal promise never to fall for knife fads and other shallow
             forms of knife advertising.


Basically for every one thing you can do with a karembit? You can do 6 or more things, better and easier...with a regular, straight knife.

Now if you will excuse me? I am off to the drugstore to buy the new curved condom. You see, I heard that with these newer curved condoms, you can....

Hock
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« Last Edit: December 26, 2008, 08:12:09 AM by Hock »
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Bryan Lee

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Re: Karambit training
« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2007, 08:46:29 PM »

Well...you all know how I feel about the odd-shaped knives and other "Klingon" Knives....

When God made the knife, he made it straight to maximize its full potential.

Hochheim System Karembit Training instructions"

  1) Take karembit.

   2) Walk to nearest trash can.

    3) Lift Lid

     4) Deposit curved bladed knife.

      5) Close lid.

       6) Try to forget about this little gimmick knife and its, "you do have-to-train-and-work-extra-to-use,"
            curved knife....

        7) Make personal promise never to fall for knife fads and other shallow forms of knife advertising.


Basically for every one thing you can do with a karembit? You can do 6 or more things, better and easier...with a regular knife.

Now if you will excuse me? I am off to the drugstore to buy the new curved condom. You see, I heard that with these  new curved condom, you can....


Hock
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   Hock, I sure hope your talking about those new G-spot condoms that curve slightly upwards. Anything curving left or right could be a direct result of to much training and not enough real world experiance or dare I say time on the ground (Mound) ? ;D
« Last Edit: May 23, 2007, 08:53:33 PM by Bryan Lee »
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Re: Karambit training
« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2007, 10:17:19 PM »

OK, I was not missing anything then.  My thoughts we dead on. Thanks Hoch
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Re: Karambit training
« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2007, 09:24:01 AM »

Hi all,
I've seen and used the Karambit.  If you are an SFC knife guy, then the fiddle-ing with the thing is cool and fun, BUT....Not practical for many reasons.  Cold weather?  gets caught up easily.  Close quarter?  blade/wrist action is unpredictable, and you get your forking thumb really screwed up....and Finally, Explain that you carry this as a friendly utility knife, and happened to bust it out saving your life....To the cops in the US or UK, especially the UK!!!!  Wow, you carry THAT? 
I'd say you're forked..
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Re: Karambit training
« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2007, 05:21:43 PM »

is a karambit or karambit training any different than bowie or tomahawk training?
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Hock

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Re: Karambit training
« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2007, 07:46:44 PM »

is a karambit or karambit training any different than bowie or tomahawk training?

Bout the same, though the bowie might be used in some practical situations.

It is only when the karambit is portrayed as a equal or superior weapon than the simple knife, to the uneducated that is improper mistake

Hock

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Re: Karambit training
« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2007, 11:52:23 PM »

in my understanding, the karambit is a filipino fishing knife, essentially designed to "gut" a fish, whicih is exactly what the knife excels at, but it doesnt need to be a knife, and in that regard, it is superior

IMHO, I believe the karambit lends a bit more to controlling [the attacker] than the average straight single edged knife

as far as comparing something to another thing, the only thing that makes it superior/inferior is the ability/creativity of the user, so that conversation is ALWAYS moot in my eyes
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