Hock's Web Page

Hock's Seminars

Hock's Shopsite

Hock's Blog

Lauric Enterprises, Inc.
1314 W. McDermott
Ste 106-811
Allen, TX 75013
972-390-1777

CombatCentric

Hubbard Web

W. Hock Hochheim's
           Combat Centric
Talk Forum for Military, Police, Martial Artists and Aware Citizenry


March 13, 2010, 04:00:58 PM *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
News: Brigade Quartermasters, Ltd.
 
Pages: 1 [2]
Print
Author Topic: Jim Wagner, Phony SWAT & troubled Police history  (Read 3688 times)
gematriot
Level 3
****
Posts: 235


« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2009, 10:41:01 PM »

Quote
2) All bomb-squad protocol aside, Wagner opens briefcase!

Reminds of a scene from the movie "SHOWTIME" (2002, Robert de Niro and Eddie Murphy)...

William Shatner: (advising Trey on how TV cops taste drugs) You spear the knife into the bag... then pick some of the drugs up with the knife... then lightly press it on your tongue. And that is how TV cops taste drugs!
Detective Mitch Preston: What if its cyanide?
Logged

"Any experiment of interest in life will be carried out at your own expense. Mark it well. "
youngilethal
Forum Member
*
Posts: 1


« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2009, 11:19:44 PM »

Is this for real? I dont consider myself to be a genius but do people actually fall for this BS? I'm a baby in the self-defense world compared to the pioneers on this site and i would never in my wildest dreams cook up a crock a shit like that story to sell my product....lol Agent Jimmy does it again!!
Logged
JimH
Level 4
*****
Posts: 1933


« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2009, 08:12:33 PM »

Jmech,
Wagner was thrown out of the Air Marshals for...(edited out by Hock)

Wagner also is always in charge of a team of men, Funny that. Here is a guy who did a full 3 Months flying,(sitting in a seat) and he is in charge of a Team ?

In charge of a Team,why? because he was a:

* former Military, (lol) finished basic, got his radio MOS and quit with a congressman's help.
* former SWAT, (lol( Never was one!
* Former Body guard (lol) yep his story is that - because he was on SWAT he was pushed
  to be a Bodyguard to THE SHERIFF.(well if he never was NEVER in SWAT then how did he get
  the BG job? And, was in trouble for telling the public he was the sheriff's bodyguard) LOL.
  He was an unpaid, reverse anyway.

He also has several other similar stories of Terrorist encounters on his site,lol.
He always is able to spot the Middle Eastern man who is a definite Al Queda operator,lol.

Yep, always in charge and always doing some stupid crap that if it were real and if he ever actually had done what he claims could him his job and cost people their lives.
JW got to play with inert explosive devices while with HSS.
« Last Edit: March 06, 2009, 10:44:36 AM by Hock » Logged
Hock
Administrator
Level 4
*****
Posts: 5552


« Reply #18 on: March 04, 2009, 07:33:09 AM »

For the record, Wagner's FAM letter of resignation does not allude to any force-out or pressure to leave. As I recall, Wagner told me he would supply anyone his letter of resignation. (Remember that anyone can write anything in their own letter of resignation. Admins LOVE any letter od resignation from a person of trouble with an axe looming over their head)

We can say, (and backed by documentation collected by others, not me!) that Wagner was under suspension, his badge, gun and creds seized by superiors just before his self-prepared letter of resignation. (and a letter of resignation can say anything, can't it?)

As to the reason of his suspension? I really do hate to print that here. Nor would I print the reason someone was fired or about to fired from WalMart. And it might be an accumulation of things as Jmech ( Jmech is a veteran cop by the way) suggests, or maybe just one big thing. That I do not know. People that I know and do not know, also know these sordid details, and they can be found talking about those details elsewhere on other talk forums.

He might have resigned because of the pending suspension problems, or not? Maybe bored (as so many FAMs are?) Most FAMs report terribly boring, uneventful days. Tired of the hours or travel? I don't know. We welcome his response, or the response of a friend or any representative here anytime to clear this matter up. Or, any Wagner related matter talked about here.

Hock
www.CombatCentric.com

« Last Edit: May 21, 2009, 02:51:46 PM by Hock » Logged

"Signatures? HaHaaaa...Signatures? I don't need no stinkin' signatures."
JimH
Level 4
*****
Posts: 1933


« Reply #19 on: March 04, 2009, 05:25:08 PM »

Resign or be fired ,or charged ?
or
PLEASE Sir,instead of Firing me or charging me ,PLEASE allow me to resign ?

Neither of those fit the reasons on his website:
"When the demand for Jim Wagner's services became substantial (defensive tactics, tactics, and firearms training courses) he became a Reserve Police Officer with the same city for several months in 1999. After handing in his Letter of Resignation"

(I will resign please do not fire me)

"After the Al Qaeda terroirst attacks on the United States on September 11, 2001 Jim Wagner applied for the position of United States Federal Air Marshal. On January 28, 2002 Sergeant Wagner turned in his Letter of Resignation to his chain-of-command"

(I will resign please do not fire me)

"In conjunction with several other events happening at the time, Jim Wagner decided to resign from the federal government working his last day on September 11, 2003 - the one year anniversary of the terrorist attacks. "

(I will resign please do not fire me)

He left the Costa Mesa Police to persue his training of Military and LEO with HSS.
He joined the Sheriff Department to teach with HSS and keep a foot in the Police.
He then RESIGNS from a Part Time VOLUNTEER job to go into Full time work with the air marshal program ?
(what happened to training the world and HSS ?)
The Terrorism dropped off s in 3 months he flew so he resigned and returned to Training the military and LEO,though not with HSS ??)
Then he joined the California Militia,as a Volunteer, so as not to be found to be a liar with claims of SGT /NCO in the US Army.

According to the above from JWs site :
JW resigned from the sheriff department Jan 2002.
Wagner joined the Air Marshal Program and finished training at the end of April 2002.
He started to fly mid May,he finished flying Aug .
He says that he resigned from the Air Marshal program Sept 11,2003 ,the first anniversary of the attacks ??
The First anniversary of the attacks was Sept 11,2002.
I attended JWs course in Aug 2003,he was already out of the air Marshal program,and had been for a while.
I imagine that he and the WHOLE WORLD knew when the first Anniversary was.
JW did a total 5 months in the Program,with 3 months of actual flying/sitting in the seat as he says.
(ALL BS)

Also of question from JWs site:

The responsibilities of Sergeant Jim Wagner's position as Team Leader (TL) of the Dignitary Protection Unit (DPU) included:
1.  Control the movement of the close protection team
2.  Assign and control of agents at fixed posts
3.  Liaison when multiple agencies involved.
4.  Training of agents (defensive tactics, tactics, and firearms)

Anyone notice YET AGAIN that the job description from above is not one of HANDS ON ,walking with the client and being in the actual PROTECTION ROLE ??
(similar to working with SWAT in Logistics and never being on a TEAM doing entry)
WORD GAMES.

Nice photo op of the group of Close Protection Operators ? with the PRIVATE Jet on the web site.
Photo OP.
A dignitary who has a PRIVATE Jet ,especially if they need PROTECTION,gets in and out in the HANGAR.
If a Hangar is not available the Car is brought to the foot of the stairs of the plane .
NO CAR IN THE PICTURE Huh
LOL
Logged
Hock
Administrator
Level 4
*****
Posts: 5552


« Reply #20 on: March 06, 2009, 08:36:33 AM »

yes, JIMH it is funny that Wagner always has...a team. The less-than-one-year-rookie FAM, a few months out of the academy and flying, is leading...a team.

Didn't like bomb story, people? You are not alone. An active-duty Marshal read this, that I know, contacted me and called it a sham. The story violates numerous procedures and realities.

Cheer up though. Because Wagner will re-write it like he has done everything else about his history and try to straighten it all up with snakey, word play. We are his best editors here actually, but he still does not really follow the full advice. Fess up, clean up and become a respected instructor through time.

Once again we stand ready to clean up and correct ANYTHING said here by, about Wagner, from him or ANY past co-worker, friend or rep.

Hock
« Last Edit: March 06, 2009, 10:45:05 AM by Hock » Logged

"Signatures? HaHaaaa...Signatures? I don't need no stinkin' signatures."
Pages: 1 [2]
Print
Jump to: