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[grlaun]

Man!  This is just WAY too serious for the bus stop.

Professor, could you please let me off at the next watering hole?  I need a large drink, a couple hours dancin' so I'll be prepared to take on this sociological BS.  Then I think I'll take a urine test on the lawn's of a few of our "esteemed"  'lawmaker's' houses.

desperate Rawhide

[redcap]

Sorry, forgot where I was for a moment!  guess I got carried away by the others waiting for that damn bus! 
 
Anyway, the welfare issue is easy to solve.  Have some compassion.  Make it a fair system for all, take away the shame and give people reasons to get off it and a chance to actually do that.  Maybe then you won;t have more of your population behind bars than any other democracy in the world. Or just make everything from riding a bicycle without lights on up a capital offence and screw the appeals process.  Redcap

[Nick Hughes]

There's no shame on being on welfare here...are you kidding.  They relish the fact they're on it (generalizing here)...in fact, when a women in the projects has another child to yet another father, it's called "getting a pay raise."

Bush is the first one to ever attempt to do anything about it by putting time limits on how long you could receive it and guess what...some of the lazy fuckers actually went out and got jobs.  What a concept.  (of course that will be undone if the mongrel democrats get in next year)

FYI there are families here that have been on the stuff for 3 generations or more.

As for the population behind bars...here's another novel concept...don't commit crime and you won't go to jail.  Yes, I know difficult for some to grasp but that's it in a nutshell.  People are always looking for complex solutions.

They're lucky Arnold and I do not (yet) run the country. 

Yer Uncle Nicky

PS:  How about working for that welfare check...I see litter all along the highways...fill up ten bags of trash and you'll get your check. 

[arnold]

How about my new system called "Workfare"
In order to be accepted for workfare, you must apply, show proof of citizenship,a valid address, some sort of Government ID, take a urine and drug test. Fuck up on any one of the above procedures and you do get a second chance 30 days later. Fuck up again, and we put your ass in the US Painting and Cleanup Corps.
We give you a snazzy new uniform, complete with gloves and hat that you can crank to one side to "lock on".
It's bugle call at 5 am, breakfast from 6 till 7, which will be oatmeal or lucky charms, and on the streets by 8 am. Lunch will be provided from 12 to 12.30, in the form of a green baloney and ketchup sandwich on white bread, along with a small bag of lays potato chips. It can all be washed down with what we used to call "bug juice" which is watered down kool aid. You get a break in the afternoon from 3 till 3.15, and finish up the day at 4.30. We don't need any overweight slobs in our new crews
Back to the local tent city to shower up and get ready for dinner from 6 till 7. After which tv will be made available to watch Fox News. Lights out will be at 10 pm.
Saturday will be a "punishment " day for those too stupid to follow directions during the week. Curb painting in the summer, sidewalk shoveling in the winter. 8 solid hours with no afternoon break. Fuck up more than 3 times in the same month, and you get to shovel elephant shit at the zoo everyday for a month.
You will be paid minimum wage and all of your meals will be taken out of your pay at 50 cent per meal. If you have a family, all your kids are in school. You pay for their meals too.Plus you will be charged for your uniforms. If your kids fail to make grades or are too stupid, you guessed it, they get to work right alongside dear old mom or dad. Deadbeat parents will be tracked down and thrown into the program unless they can come up with the back child support.
They will be able to build their own "domicilies" to move into when they are complete, so they can give their tents to the next lucky group.
Just another great idea

[Nick Hughes]

Arnold...they do that already mate...it's called "The US Military"   

Yer Uncle Nicky

[redcap]

Arnold...they do that already mate...it's called "The US Military"   

Yer Uncle Nicky

I thought it was spelt G.U.L.A.G.?  Apart from the drug and urine testing the system in Oz is very tight nowadays and very hard to rort.  Which is the way it should be.  As for not commiting crime and you won;t do the time, that would be ok if there weren;t so many "crimes" out there and more since the freedoms once enjoyed pre911 were stolen via the Patriot Act.  Of course that is fine until you fall through the cracks. 

No way I would undergo a drug/urine test for a civilian job.  Invasion of privacy and so on.  Its the principle, as in what's next? Discrimination on the grounds of low white cell count or lousy BMI? Last time I had to give a urine samle I cheated and used a friend's piss.  I was told I was drug free and pregnant.  Gotta be more careful next time!

We lost the War on Drugs years ago because we targeted the wrong enemy.  Should have cut off demand rather than attack supply.  Or simply flooded the market with drugs at a dollar a pop, watched the profit drop out of it then taken the savings on the DEA and used it to rehouse the users and their dependants in vast camps in Alaska.  Next to the pipeline where they could have gotten jobs.  If you get enough drug addicts sticking their tongues to the frozen pipes you can lift them into position and save on crane hire!

If Arnolds Idiot FIlter was working, sweeping the gene pool on a regular basis then we would be sweet!  I dunno about the USA but here in Oz the profile is of a low IQ manual labourer type who didn;t finsih school, gets into fights, petty crime and drinks, smokes and gambles, beats the spouse and is a lousy role model for his kids.  You can tell them when they open their often half toothed mouths as they speak apalling English with pronunciation missing the beginnings or endings of words and say things like "arkse" instead of ask, Brought instead of bought and vice versa and you's for you, plural.  probably still has a mullet, lots of tattoos, maybe the younger ones have piercings and can drink a carton of beer for breakfast.  Them's just the white ones....

I'm just getting soft, tolerant and compassionate in my middle age, fatherhood and growing teritary developed educashun. I will go and HTFU, then find some migrant to abuse. I'm not prejudiced, I'll abuse anyone from anywhere! Cheers Redcap

[arnold]

I know for a fact that the US Military doesn't shovel elephant shit. They left that to the FFL.
Redcap is right on the money
HTFU