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chfroehlich

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Kokkar
« on: September 06, 2007, 10:26:43 AM »

Hello together,

a guy here in Germany (he claims to be an LAPD SWAT Officer) is offering a KOKKAR Seminar with 5 Instructors from different US Special Forces (Navy Seals,Fugitiv Recovery, Dallas Marshall Departement).

He claims that Kokkar Hand to Hand Combat is the  Close Combat System of the Special Forces.

I think I remember an articel in Budo International with Martínez Sesto, who did several Videos about Kokkar with them, in which they reported that Sesto got shoot.

Anybody heard anything about Kokkar??

Greets

Christof
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Re: Kokkar
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2007, 12:00:22 PM »

Rest assured that KOKKLAR is not the official combat system of US Special Forces.

There is no one system for the many differing SF units.

Hock

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Re: Kokkar
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2007, 01:03:51 PM »

KOKKAR...isn't that the fighting system used by Thundar the Barbarian?
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JimH

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Re: Kokkar
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2007, 03:07:42 PM »

I believe that these people may have demonstrated Kokkar at Seminars for SWAT and SEALs.

Kokkar is not the Official H2H system for any US Military or Police Units,as far as I know.
Kokkar is not the Official H2H system of US Special Forces,US Navy SEALs nor LAPD SWAT.

Many today do one Seminar,One Demo or have one student in one of these units and they claim to train them and that Units have adopted their materials.

Here is Material by the Guy,Ralf ,who is running the German Kokkar Seminars.
Ralf is  Muay Thai guy who is also an Instructor for Kokkar Kempo.

This is kokkar Kempo Germany,the ones running the seminars;
this is their contact page,Note Titles of Special Forces and LAPD then see Spain and Germany as addresses???

There are  Galleries to see if you click the left side choices.

http://www.kokkar.de/kokkar_web/de_kontakt.html



This is Ralfs Myspace page.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=13424207

might as well study this guys stuff,lol
Thundarr,
http://youtube.com/watch?v=LhAobPugvsk


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Re: Kokkar
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2007, 04:35:38 PM »

  I notice Ralf doesn't have any cops or military as friends on his myspace? ;D

  What some weirdo whacked out pictures and bizarre music though!  ;D
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Milldog1776

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Re: Kokkar
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2007, 05:43:29 PM »

I've never understood how a professional defensive tactics instructor can have a Myspace page. To me...your professionalism goes right down the crapper. There are too many free websites available out there to go the Myspace route.
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chfroehlich

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Re: Kokkar
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2007, 05:29:25 AM »

Ralf claims to be a Law enforcement officer since 03.2006 and a  LAPD SWAT Officer since 04.2007. This current status is "Reserve".

He got his official Rank to represent the units here in Germany and to get access to military facilities in the US and everywhere else.

He said he can proof that with his dutynumber (is that correct :-[), badge and pass.

Greets

Christof

PS: He told me that he got permission from the US Goverment to show all the badges on his Reference-Page.
« Last Edit: September 07, 2007, 05:31:30 AM by chfroehlich »
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Re: Kokkar
« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2007, 05:37:44 AM »

All-Kokkar??is that a  hot choclate-or a f----g candy bar-in any event hit delete and move on-whitewolf in sandy kuwait--opss sorry stay  safe :D
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JimH

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Re: Kokkar
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2007, 07:10:32 AM »

On his my space  Ralf does not say a word about being in LAPD SWAT.

Ralf,according to what was just posted became a Police Officer ,I assume in LA right?
03/06,I assume he did a police academy right?
Then a year after he was a member of LAPD he went into SWAT,lol ?
He went into SWAT 04/07 and he is back in Germany as a Reserve officer,5 months later,as of now,waiting for an emergency call up I guess ? lol.

is Ralf a US Citizen?
Did he become a Volunteer/Reserve officer in LA?
No police academy,No SWAT?

NASTA is Not a US Government Organization it is a Group of Trainers from OHIO SWAT.

Most US bases are open so he can go there as anyone can.
He can also go as a Trainer,if invited.

If he had a US government contract to Instruct US Special Operations Units, CIA,FBI and Other agencies,he would not be in Germany running a civilian course and druming up business for his seminars.

If SWAT liked and Used his materials he would be running the seminars in the US.

If the Materials are so good and so Secret we see nothing about them on the web,except for Budo materials,then would German Military,Other Police and Military in Europe be giving ralf and Bindini a contract?

You seem to Want to Believe Ralf and Bindini,if you believe him/them,like the video clips then pay the money and take the Seminar.

Ralf is a muay Thai Guy and does MMA training,sport.

I wonder why it is called Kokkar Kempo???? lol
I imagine it is KARATE

LAPD website tells about how you do the academy then do SEVERAL YEARS on Patrol on the  street before transfering to other units like SWAT:
http://www.joinlapd.com/jobdescriptions.html

LAPD Reserve Officers"Reserve officers are a valuable resource to the department. Our current Reserve Corps of 649 officers is the equivalent of approximately 100 full-time officers, which saves the LAPD approximately $5 million per year," said Mayor Hahn. "Because of difficult budget times, we are unable to hire the police officers we need, but building the reserve ranks will help us make our streets safer."

Types of Reserve Officers

There are four types of Reserve Officers, three of which are required to work a minimum of 32 hours every two deployment periods to remain active. The civilian Specialists have no shift requirement:

1)  Level I Reserve Officers are sworn peace officers who generally wear uniforms, are armed and work primarily patrol assignments. They receive 795 hours of academy training and undergo a year of field training before becoming fully designated as a Level I reserve.
2)  Level II Reserve Officers are sworn peace officers who generally wear uniforms, are armed, and have police officer powers only while on-duty . They can work the same assignments as Level I officers provided they are supervised by a full-time or Level I Reserve Officer. They receive 455 hours of academy training.
3)  Level III Reserve Officers are sworn peace officers who generally wear uniforms, are unarmed and have police officer powers only while on-duty . They receive 205 hours of academy training and work support assignments such as the area desk and assisting detectives in non-tactical situations.
4)  Specialist Reserve Officers are civilian volunteers who possess special skills that benefit the department. Although they receive a brief orientation, they have no specific department training, no police officer powers and do not wear uniforms or carry weapons.

"On a daily basis, and in times of major disaster, Los Angeles Police Department Reserve Corps Officers stand side-by-side sworn LAPD Officers to support police operations," said Zine. "As a Level I Reserve Officer with over 35 years of police experience, my reserve activities remain both challenging and interesting."




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chfroehlich

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Re: Kokkar
« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2007, 10:09:18 AM »

You seem to Want to Believe Ralf and Bindini,if you believe him/them,like the video clips then pay the money and take the Seminar.

Absolutely NO!!!

I doubt everything he claims to be!!

Thats the reason why I ask here in Hock's Forum, because I know that here I'll find answers.

Can you please explain me what NASTA is??

And how about getting permission to show Police and Military Badges an his website?? How can I prove him wrong??

Thanks for your support

Christof
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Re: Kokkar
« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2007, 10:20:15 AM »

Mil, I am just impressed that anybody else remembers Thundarr the Barbarian!  Wow, my age is showin. :D
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Re: Kokkar
« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2007, 10:51:54 AM »

NASTA is a group of former SWAT members from OHIO who formed a Group of trainers.
NASTA is the North American SWAT Training Association

If you are not interested in his materials or training then forget about trying to prove him wrong or a fake,if people do not attend that is enough.

Loads of Fakes teaching loads of stuff,the informed stay away the uninformed go.
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Re: Kokkar
« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2007, 08:07:08 PM »

JimH-i agree-stay away and keep truckin on with the good guys-i think it mostly boils down to a person or group of persons who want to make a $$ and people to are swayed easily gravitate to  their brand of BS-i guess its part of growing up-whatever  stay  safe  white wolf- oh i almost forgot need directions to  your school in bronx as we may visit jersey in Nov and I could try to get to the othe side of the river at least to meet in NYC and have a beer and talk -stay safe whitewolf
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Re: Kokkar
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2007, 07:37:31 AM »

I’m sorry, this guy lost all credibilty the minute I heard the David Hasslehoff track on his My Space page.
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Re: Kokkar
« Reply #14 on: September 09, 2007, 07:00:09 AM »


  JimH, I wouldn't be to sure about this guys Muay Thai credentials either. As a matter of fact Muay Thai credentials may be the easiest to get of all since there are so many organizations. If it comes out hes fought at Lumpini a few times I will eat my words but more than likely he spent less than thirty days a camp and got some kind of certificate.

  I pointed out a situation last year where a individual was claiming to be pro Muay Thai fighter and it turns out they until that time had never fought with legal elbows in any fight. How can anyone claim Muay Thai without elbows, PS, I saw a couple great fights last night.

 My dinner just arrived, time to go, steamed fish with lime, cilantro and Thai peppers with a plate of sticky rice, Thai Food again ;D
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