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[fkruger]

Hi Group,

This is my first post to this forum. I would like to say I am glad to be back training in CQC/PAC. I started about three years ago and about a year and a half ago I had a severe shoulder injury. I was suppose to get it operated on to remove the end of my collar bone but started doing light exerciseswith Russian Kettlebells. Needless to say I am almost 100% healed due to the kettlebel workout. So I rejoined my Diato Ryu Aiki Jujutsu class again. I also started to look for a combat defense system since thereare no instructors that are close to my location. So I checked out the Crav Maga stuff and wasn't impressed then I went to several FIGHT classes which is similar to Crav Maga. I do not want to knock these systems because there is some good to them but not for me. I am not full circle and will start training in the CQC again (got hold of my old instructor) but I want to add the PAC to my training. I will still study the Jujutsu along with Hocks system.

I have one question maybe some one could answer. I download Training Mission One manual and I have the old tapes Unarmed Combatives Study Progression 1-4 and the SDMS tapes. Are these relevant to TM1 -4. I do want to spend another 120 dollars if the tapes corrispond to Training mission 1-4. I also bought the first PAC DVD. Can anyone assit me with answer? And is there a logical progression to my training?

Thanks
Mike R.

[Hock]

Two things have happened since the old days...
1) The DVD revolution is slowly causing the disappearance of old videos. When these things had to remade into DVd and I decided to really remake and update them.
2) I decided what I really wanted to do was the complete modern package-hand, stick, knife AND gun. The full spectrum, modern warrior approach. So I structured these courses to flow together as best as possible. For example, level 1 for the stick, knife and gun should be about stress quick draws. Stick disarms and long gun disrams are in level 5. Everywhere I could work a consistency into the program I did. This caused some restructure.

So since the PAC course requires hand, stick and knife material and since I could not organize or teach the hand, stick and knife material any better than the CQC courses, these became the foundation of the PAC course too.

PAC Level One consists of
Hand 1
Stick 1
Knife 1
Double weapons 1
Make the Connection 1
(no gun)
Getting Training Mission One DVD set and Unlocking Sinawali One covers PAC 1

PAC Level Two consists of
Hand 2
Stick 2
Knife 2
Double weapons 2
Make the Connection 2
(no gun)
Getting Training Mission Two DVD set and Unlocking Sinawali Two covers PAC 2

and so on...

getting the DVD package sets like:
http://www.hockscqc.com/shop/product3.html

The first three levels of the Force Necessary/Unarmed Combatives course can exist alone as a citizen survival course. The material on the old tapes (now getting to be 11 years old in some cases) appear in different places in the new courses.They do not match with the old tapes in the new progression.

Without a doubt, getting these cheaper PDF downloads of the Training Mission Books is a great idea to see where it all fits. TMOne through TMFour (Four is brand new and will be downloadable within 48 hours)

Amazing story on the kettlebells. I wish you would tell us how the kettlebells are different and exactly how they helped.
 
Hock