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[whitewolf]

All-Sence I cannot make the London trip due to visiting a lot of friends and relatives while in the states I signed up for a 4 hour seminar in Nashville-it was given by George Dillman-it was the first time I ever took his pressure point seminar-here are some comments-
1-i was amazed about the amount of followers that came-he sure has a lot of schools-
2-He likes to find a black belt in the audiance from anothr system and ask them questions about "Forms" and when they dont know the answer he then expounds on his system
3-He did not show any dim mak pressure point strike  from far away that kills ...
4-There was not discussion at  all from him or any of his black  belts about weapons and protection from  them
5-No working from the ground when one may be thrown/tripped to the ground-
6-I was working with a nice guy (black belt) as a partner and when i got on the ground to review a tactic shown it looked like he was unsure of  himself.
7-He showed tactics for police  officers and how to put someone down when being confronted-at close distance
8-I came away  with a couple tactics to practise-and see how they fit in to reality.
Any comments ?

[Bri Thai]

I have a Long Stand and an Sky Hook for sale.

[whitewolf]

All-Interesting-i received a couple private  emails on the subject/seminar-I will only say that I did come away from the seminar with a few tactics to work on-as i  have previously said here and to other instructors that i  meet -one should always look into the system you are reviewing even if you do  not agree-one tactic may save your  life someday-so say ing that  I will continue to take seminars where and when i  can  find them-Tuesday I go to a MMA class with a instructor that faught in 62 octagon fights and recently returned from Russia where he was invited to give some classes in his style-now i am 69 years old but if i  can pick up a few pointers ill be happy-always always stay alert gentlemen and learn from any source-i learned that from a green baret in 1967 before shipping out to Vietnam-it always stays  with  me--as for George Dillman-he was polite to  me so ill be polite to him-stay  safe  whitewolf

[michael]

I'm very skeptical of Dillman, though I haven't seen him in person. I have read a couple of articles about him and what he does, but I was not impressed. Pressure points have a place, but I think he overhypes them to make a lot of money, and at that he is apparently successful.

[Hock]

Much has already been sliced, diced, excised and discussed about this character.
No doubt at this Nashville seminar you saw some of very convinced people, AND also saw some of these regional people I know well and oddly? Are very smart folks! This confuses me.

Old Dillman talk: http://hockscombatforum.com/index.php?topic=943.0

I think that people who try to make the best of weird and low-yield martial arts seminars are , to say it nicely, "easily entertained." I have quite a few really, good-natured and spiritual, martial art friends who would pay money to go to pie-throwing contest and walk away trying to dig something postive out of it. I hear their reviews later and detect the good-natured stretch. And, some are just...well...VERY easily entertained and try to have a good time wherever they go. I have learned not to trust their optimistic judgement.

A skunk is a skunk. Even if their fur is pretty. I have little time for half-assed, charleton politicians, con men, mystics, preachers, snake-oil salesmen, Al Gore, info-mercials and martial arts windbags.

Dillman? I have seen Dillman and his assorted people before in the 1980s and early 90s. Personally, I wouldn't walk across the street to see this guy again, even if it were a single lane road, even if you paid me.

Take a stand. Speak up. Let people know. Save money. Save time.

Hock

[whitewolf]

Hock-yes he is  little different-but as i said  i came away from the talk with a couple tactics so i am  happy-oh i met  some pretty nice instructors there-one was a police officer in Evansville Indiana and he said he makes a  lot of apprehensions on meth users-he said  he  has used some of the strikes to the pressure point areas to  handcuff-he said he really drives the strike to the area hard and it  has  worked-what can i  say but i told  him to be safe out there-you too whitewolf.

[Hock]

What is a "pressure point?" Some are just common sense targets. But, when you have to hit their L-3 first, then N-6 and hit ... blah-blah-blah.

My guess is that the officer is happy with the generic , so-called "pressure point" strikes - like the coratid. In these loose definitions, the truths get mixed up with the half-truths.

The belivers believe.
The non-belivers did-believe,
and the solid people REALLY look at all unbaised, pro and "con."

After all that? Dillman to me - is to be ignored. The strikes that work? Are already listed in common karate, for God's sake. They do not have to be shrouded in a bunch of crappola.

Hock

[Milldog1776]

My favorite pressure points are: H-1 and B-1 

[whitewolf]

Keith-where is H-1 and B-1 on the body? I always just  say forearm/inside theigh/etc etc
thanks-Whitewolf

[mleone]

Didnt you guys all know?

That if your toungue touches the roof of your mouth. That you nullify all the strikes?
This is common dillman knowledge, oh and if you move your toes too, That will nullify the strikes.

Some how I smell horse shit..

I remember some one saying "L5, I dont have time for L5, I just want to beat the snot out of his arm.

I think the other quote was "I cant shoot his trigger finger in the chaos of combat let alone find L5 in the chaos of combat".

I think Mccaan got punched by Dillman or one of his cronies and Mccaan just stood their and took the shot.

He must of nullified it LOL

Been there done that worn the t-shirt and burned it after the nullify comments.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6CPTb5qMkE

[Milldog1776]

Keith-where is H-1 and B-1 on the body? I always just  say forearm/inside theigh/etc etc
thanks-Whitewolf

That's a bit of a joke.

H-1 = Head
B-1 = Balls!

[Bri Thai]

Good one!

 

[whitewolf]

Keith-H-1 B-1 good  targets- also I get the feeling that this guy is  not a favorite by  most on the forum-thats  life in the big  city-I probably wont take another seminar from him but if i got one tactic that will pop up when I am in the back streets of kuwait and I use  it and dont get hospitalized then the seminar  was worth it..This the last post  on this subject -on to other discussions-stay safe  whitewolf..

[Hock]

This bubbling to the top

[redfive]

Sweet Jeees, Hope I didn't cause this from my post on " martial arts magic".  I didn't seek the man out. It was a bi product of Seeing Remy. Al Garza and Steeve Selby, Ron Van Browning would always host the three. Remy, George, Wally. Package deal. George would sure stir some shit up when he would start bashing forms. That is for sure. My experience is from the late 80s to mid 90s also. This was before the no touch crap. And all I can say is he did knock me out . Strait to the ground. It was like grabbing my horse fence. 4500volts bamb down I went. Got right back up but I did black out for about 2 seconds.  But again in combat or pressure testing in full sparing or contact? It would be hard to pull off. I just hate pressure points period, they piss me off, just like trying to do Silat moves. Just something about it pisses me off.
  I had a Tia Chi teacher who stated that there is a pressure point within every inch on the body. So I reasoned that if I hammerfist the hell out of someone I'm guaranteed to hit at least four. That's my training in pressure points.

                                                  Redfive