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Author Topic: stairwell defense (science?)  (Read 1252 times)

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Re: stairwell defense (science?)
« Reply #15 on: January 31, 2008, 12:24:17 PM »

I watched both the MMA and the Special Ops episodes back to back the other night. I found them both to be interesting and entertaining; much better than "Fight Quest" or "Human Weapon", anyway.
But, here are some tests I'd like to see them do:
1) Put a motorcycle helmet on one of those dummies and determine the force required to break the helmet and crush the skull. Uncle Nicky would perform the demonstration.
2) Have Arnold, the Navy SEAL and the Israeli fella attempt obstacle course after being struck by lightening.
3) Attach ears to dummy, and measure amount of force necessary to rip them from the head. Hock will demonstrate; can use Arnold for the dummy to lower production costs (not very scientific, but just think of the entertainment value!).
4) Hold a dance marathon with any MMA guy, any SPEC OPS guy and Rawhide. Beats "Dancing with the Stars" any day!
Give me some episodes like that and I might even pay attention to the commercials!
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JimH

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Re: stairwell defense (science?)
« Reply #16 on: January 31, 2008, 03:14:40 PM »

Ryan,you keep asking what is my point?

Again my point even before you posted was that Fight Science is an Ad ,period.
Since the First one which featured the Hyped up Xreme Martial arts.

I asked who ran the Ads for the stair well defense?
I asked if it was Krav Maga as I had seen the show which had them putting up a commercial,the Spec ops show I mentioned.

You then posted about Amir.

You then made it that what I said was in error,which it was not.
You said that the order of the commercial did not follow the clip,(not the segment you keep on about) but it did.
I corrected your misinformation as it related to what I said.

Then I corrected again about when and what was said by the narator in regard to the Complete Disarm.

Other than that I could care less about Krav Maga and Amir as it and he performed on the show.
(as a member of the Spec Ops community he has my respect)

My point ,if you get past your hang up with the words Krav Maga when ever they are written you will see that I said that it,Fight Science, is a Commercial not just for Krav maga,but the Navy SEALS,MMA,Street Self Defense,Xtreme Martial arts,on and on.

It is a Commercial based around so called scientific experimentations that AGAIN mean nothing.

I don't have a Problem with Krav Maga the art.
I do not like their sales Hype period.

I do not represent Moni nor Combat Krav Maga and I could care less about his ads.
If he and his art were featured on Fight Science and they made extreme claims of him doing a gun disarm faster than a speeding bullet I would have a problem with it.

The show is geared for the uninformed and they believe the BS of strike power and science.

If the power generated were constant and the point of contact constant and knock outs or what ever were always replicable then it would mean something but nothing is constant and when we put two people or more in conflict it just magnifies Nothing is constant.


I watched the first show,when they HYPED Xtreme martial arts.
I watched the second in which they show cased various arts.
I watched the one with the Breakers and I watched the MMA/Spec Ops shows.
I watch for entertainment,not for truth in Self Defense nor for Truth in scientific Data.

Others though believe what they see and hear.

You are the one carrying on about what is my point and my hang up about Krav Maga.

Show me in any of my posts on this thread where I ripped into the technique of the Gun Disarm or Krav Maga ?

I am sure Amir did not say he was faster than a speeding bullet,the producers added that as a hook.
If the Krav Maga people who bought the Ad got it placed right Good luck to them.

Again,The show Is a COMMERCIAL for the arts they show,(all the arts they show),period.

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Bryant

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Re: stairwell defense (science?)
« Reply #17 on: February 01, 2008, 04:04:26 PM »

David James (vee-Arnis-Jitsu)
does some interesting stairwell self defense scenarios on his tapes
He does a few with the assailant coming down the steps towards you
and a few with the assailant coming up the steps towards you
seemed very practical (lots of strikes and jujitsu/aikido style holds)
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Re: stairwell defense (science?)
« Reply #18 on: February 01, 2008, 10:59:41 PM »

 The minute they start talking ninjas and Dim Mak they have lost me. They did and they did.
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Re: stairwell defense (science?)
« Reply #19 on: November 07, 2011, 11:41:03 PM »

...and the show is officially off the air?

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