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Author Topic: Fake SEALs  (Read 2064 times)

Joe Hubbard

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Fake SEALs
« on: June 24, 2008, 08:14:09 PM »

This was taken from the Original Seal Verification Project:

One of the more curious aspects of exposing impostors is not the reactions of the fakes themselves, but those of their "believers". Some fakes succeed in developing cult followers who, it often seems, would rather die than accept the fact that their "SEAL" hero is nothing more than a cheap imitation of the real thing. Even when confronted with irrefutable facts that blow big, ugly holes in the flimsy facade of their favored faker, they refuse to face the truth. They grasp at straws, convinced that we are in some way mistaken. They just KNOW that their "SEAL" buddy is the genuine article.
Reinforcing the lie is the impostor himself, usually cowering just behind the skirts of his flock, telling them that we are impostors conducting some sort of "smear" campaign or retribution at the behest of the many wicked enemies Mr. Phony SEAL amassed during the course of his distinguished and highly-classified career vanquishing dangerous No-goodniks the world over.
The more accomplished impostors are sometimes very good at planting an otherwise laughable forest of mirrors around their naive minions. Up is down, wrong is right, black is white ...

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« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2008, 08:29:43 AM »

I don't find this surprising at all.

People want heroes.  They want to know people who are larger than life.  They want to know folks who are out of the ordinary and can do "magic"

At least that's been my experience. 

Certain folks in the MA industry have figured out how make a living off of it.

This touches on faith; people want to have faith in something.  Shake someone's faith and you can end up with denial.

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Fake SEALs
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2008, 12:29:43 PM »

I think the Seal Wall of Shame (fake seals) is down! Their Admin said they could no longer keep up with it!

Thats a shame. It boasted an array of martial artists, like the Target Focus guy Tim Larkin, people that new and old students need to know the full truth about before they listened to him.

"What can I say? I met Tim in 1989, along with Jerry when they were introducing the SCARS COI. He was caught a few times claiming to be a SEAL, but hey, why let the facts get in the way of your hero worship of Tim. He was outed a while back becasue of his website, claiming to be a SEAL, he quickly took it down soon after."

"I DID talk to Tim directly on the phone and he said he was with NSW and a SEAL, I said what was your BUDs class and he quickly changed,obviously realizing he wasnt dealing with a kid,and said he blew out his ears on a "training" dive and went into the NSW intelligence field.
Dont EVER tell me that Iam a liar or BSing or you will quickly find your ass outta here! I have no dog in this competitive end of things just stating how I feel about him and Petersen and that is my job as one of the Moderators here at SOCNET!!!!!!!!!!!"

-from http://www.socnet.com/archive/index.php/t-47063.html


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Re: Fake SEALs
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2008, 02:46:11 PM »

The Wall of Shame was a Great thing in verification.

Larkin cost someone a spot in BUDS as he had had a Problem with his ears since he was a kid and had surgery on them several times prior to the Navy.
On the application to the Navy and to BUDS he left off that he had MAJOR Ear problems,which would have had him be evaluated before entering to see if he was indeed fit,he would not have made it.

I do like some aspects of Larkins TFT though.
I never liked SCARS which I bought nor The Navy SEAL Member Lew Hicks Tape of the same material sold as SEAL H2H.

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Re: Fake SEALs
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2009, 12:16:09 PM »

Formwer SCARS star Tim Larkin in the UK...still pretending to be a former SEAL in a foreign country?

http://lancasteruaf.blogspot.com/2009/09/bnp-beg-show-us-how-to-kill.html

In another UK article...
"As a former military intelligence instructor who helped America's elite Navy Seals develop their hand-to-hand combat techniques, the San Diego-born 45-year-old has spent two decades learning about violence..."

Former Military Intelligence instructor? Helped the SEALs develop in a foreign to sound like "Captain" Mike Pizzo, McShizzo?

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