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[Bryan Lee]

  While there are many definitions of military fraud for the purposes of the forum I want to lay out the definition used by myself and military fraud investigating organizations like POW Network. I have been involved in multiple cases doing background checks and seeking relevant information through public records. For the most part my work has been regarding the Army but I have looked into other cases when asked. Some have questioned my motivation for doing this and that is fine as I have never explained myself nor do I care to now.



Military Fraud By Definition,

1. Claiming Veteran Status, Anyone who makes a claim to have been a member of the Army can be challenged on that claim. It is a public record whether on is or was a uniformed member of the United States Armed Forces.

2. Claiming Honorable Service, Anyone claiming status as a Veteran, upon proving that status can be challenged to prove Honorable Service, as this is a matter of public records.

3. Rank, Rank is a matter of public record along with status of Enlisted and or Officer. In some cases Enlisted Personnel will become Commissioned Officers. This will be reflected in public records.

4. Time In Service, This is a matter of public records.

5. Special Status Claims, Anyone making claims of Special Status can be challenged on that as it is a matter of public record. Special Status can be many things and is not limited to the following examples, Combat, Sniper, Special Forces, Ranger, Army Aviator, Infantry, Pilot, Airborne, LRRP, SEAL.


  Beyond these matters one can make about any claim that they wish to make as it becomes irrelevant as a legal matter and public record.

[Bryan Lee]

Who Is A Veteran?

  This can be a area of argument as some who have received Honorable Discharges prior to fulfilling their Service Obligation claim public status as a Veteran. There are others who received Less Than Honorable discharges and later had them upgraded who also claim public status as Veterans with Honorable Service. The best way to sort this out is see who is and who is not qualified to receive medical care through the Veterans Administration Hospital System. In my view anyone who is not authorized medical treatment is not a Veteran and their eligibility is well defined as follows.

http://www.va.gov/healtheligibility/eligibility/DetermineEligibility.asp


VA Health Care Eligibility & Enrollment
Determining Your Eligibility

Eligibility for health care through VA is a two-step process:

   1. VA must determine your eligibility status as a veteran by reviewing your
          * Character of Discharge from active military service, and your
          * Length of active military service
   2. VA must determine whether you qualify for one of the eight enrollment priority groups.



The character of discharge you received from the military can be a factor. It is not an issue if you received:

    * An honorable discharge
    * A general discharge
    * A discharge under honorable conditions

The length of your service may also matter. It depends on when you served. There’s no length of service requirement for:

    * Former enlisted persons who started active duty before September 8, 1980, or
    * Former officers who first entered active duty before October 17, 1981
    * All other veterans must have 24 months of continuous active duty military service or meet one of the exceptions described below.

If you have a different character of discharge, you may still be eligible for care. Contact your Enrollment Coordinator at your local VA health care facility to see if you qualify.
Minimum Service Requirement

You do not have to meet the 24 continuous months of active duty service requirement if you:

    * Were a reservist who was called to Active Duty and who completed the term for which you were called, and who was granted an other than dishonorable discharge, or
    * Were a National Guard member who was called to Active Duty by federal executive order, and who completed the term for which you were called, and who was granted an other than dishonorable discharge, or
    * Only request a benefit for or in connection with:
          o a service-connected condition or disability; or
          o treatment and/or counseling of sexual trauma that occurred while on active military service; or
          o treatment of conditions related to ionizing radiation; or
          o head or neck cancer related to nose or throat radium treatment while in the military.
    * Were discharged or released from active duty for a hardship , or
    * Were discharged with an “early out”; or
    * Were discharged or released from active duty for a disability that began in the service or got worse because of the service; or
    * Have been determined by VA to have compensable service-connected conditions; or
    * Were discharged for a reason other than disability, but you had a medical condition at the time that
          o Was disabling, and
          o In the opinion of a doctor, would have justified a discharge for disability (in this last case, the disability must be documented in service records)

Step 2. Enrollment in VA Health Care System

Generally, you must be enrolled in VA health care system to receive benefits offered in the Medical Benefits Package.

Certain veterans do not need to be enrolled to receive medical care benefits.

You do not have to be enrolled if you:

    * Have been determined by VA to be 50% or more disabled from service-connected (SC) conditions
    * Are seeking care for a VA rated service-connected disability only
    * It is less than one year since you were discharged for a disability that the military determined was incurred or aggravated by your service, but that VA has not yet rated
     

[JimH]

Hey Bryan,
I guess this is a cover for the liar thread.
You served ,even though for a short time,and you get a pension.
In the thread in which I call you a liar ,I never said you did not serve.
Read the thread that is not a claim.

Do you find a need to try to verify yourself Bryan?

Honorable is honorable,even though some get it 6 months later.

I like how you decided to make it only based on eligibility to get VA Care.

Crap I know guys getting pensions for Jungle Rot.

Because you mentioned before that you get a pension for a mental disability you think this makes you qualified on all subjects military ?

Quote Bryan Lee from the the excerpt above
"Beyond these matters one can make about any claim that they wish to make as it becomes irrelevant as a legal matter and public record"

You posted the above on FRAUD as a cover for BEING ABLE TO CLAIM BEING IN THE INFANTRY,even though you were not,Right ?

Quote Bryan from above:
"I have been involved in multiple cases doing background checks and seeking relevant information through public records. For the most part my work has been regarding the Army but I have looked into other cases when asked. Some have questioned my motivation for doing this and that is fine as I have never explained myself nor do I care to now."

Are these background checks for you and your own use or are you trying to claim you work for the DOD or Military in doing these checks ?


You lie and make false claims on your past,including military ,(you have mentioned and allowed people to think you were Infantry,when you did a short stint as a helo repairman) and you have lied to give yourself status and titles to teach things you are unqualified to teach.

You post about Honorable discharge and Veterans.
Wagner can make the same claim as you and is as qualified on US Military subject matter as you.
LOL

You are still a Misfit,Loser Bryan.

[Bryan Lee]

Hey Bryan,
I guess this is a cover for the liar thread.
You served ,even though for a short time,and you get a pension.
In the thread in which I call you a liar ,I never said you did not serve.
Read the thread that is not a claim.

Do you find a need to try to verify yourself Bryan?

Honorable is honorable,even though some get it 6 months later.

I like how you decided to make it only based on eligibility to get VA Care.

Crap I know guys getting pensions for Jungle Rot.

Because you mentioned before that you get a pension for a mental disability you think this makes you qualified on all subjects military ?

Quote Bryan Lee from the the excerpt above
"Beyond these matters one can make about any claim that they wish to make as it becomes irrelevant as a legal matter and public record"

You posted the above on FRAUD as a cover for BEING ABLE TO CLAIM BEING IN THE INFANTRY,even though you were not,Right ?

Quote Bryan from above:
"I have been involved in multiple cases doing background checks and seeking relevant information through public records. For the most part my work has been regarding the Army but I have looked into other cases when asked. Some have questioned my motivation for doing this and that is fine as I have never explained myself nor do I care to now."

Are these background checks for you and your own use or are you trying to claim you work for the DOD or Military in doing these checks ?


You lie and make false claims on your past,including military ,(you have mentioned and allowed people to think you were Infantry,when you did a short stint as a helo repairman) and you have lied to give yourself status and titles to teach things you are unqualified to teach.

You post about Honorable discharge and Veterans.
Wagner can make the same claim as you and is as qualified on US Military subject matter as you.
LOL

You are still a Misfit,Loser Bryan.

  JimH, I guess in your world everything is about me. Nobody asked me how long I was on active duty till a couple years ago. When they did ask, I had to check documents to be sure and saw it was 23 months. The next time I saw the person who originally asked I told them that as I have nothing to hide. 23 months is far from the complete story but it is a public record that anyone can check. I retired from the Army with 23 months active duty and a couple more years with my life on hold while I fought to go back on active duty. I Retired at the rank of PV2 aka E2 aka Private 2nd Class.

  I have never told anyone I was a Infantryman or even suggested it. While on active duty I was 67T which has been changed to 15T. You do not even know what 15T is so its funny to watch you make an ass of yourself speaking on the subject. 15T is a Elite MOS, One of the hardest, most dangerous, high speed jobs in the Army, with the highest standards of selection. I am a graduate of the US Army Aviation Logistics School, I earned my Flight Wings (Army Aviation Badge), which makes me the Elite of the Elite if you want to go on about such matters.

  You JimH know nothing of my time in service, you make accusation after accusation against me which is fine. You can say whatever you want, type whatever you want, or just mumble to yourself that your a better man than me as you believe. This does not add to or take away from facts. 


Readers, Serving ones country is an Honor. I was proud to serve and I would be proud to serve again if ever recalled to Active Duty. As things stand I'm in a perpetual state of hold and remain subject to UCMJ Law (Uniform Code Of Military Justice). Like most of the men I know who Retired from the Army I have maintained a very close relationship with the Army since my retirement and do so to this very day. Outside of public records my relationship to and with the United States Army is not public information.


 For the Record, I have never made any claims to be a U.S. Army Instructor on any subject. However, I am a "Expert" in all aspects of "Close Quarter Combat" including H2H, Blunt Weapons, Edged Weapons, and Firearms. I do apologize for not having the proper documentation to back up my non military claims and the fact my geographical location does not make it easy for me to interact with forum members outside of the internet.




 

[JimH]

Bryan,
Elite of the Elite ?
23 months and you got out an E 2 ,busted down from E 3.

Your discharge says 23 months,how many of those months were you confined and or being processed for discharge ?
Like Wagner ,you worked as long to get out as to get in.LOL

Here is the US Army list of MOS for your job:

15T10/40 67T10/40 UH-60 Helicopter Repairer
Airframe &
Powerplant

MOS 15 T,formerly 67T, job description follows:
(Readers remember that Bryan was an E-2,so supervisory roles were NOT in his job description)

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/enlistedjobs/a/15t.htm


Bryan when did the 67T change to 15T ?

15t is a change in MOS to one of Combat arms.

You served what about 23 years ago right ?

You were a 67T10 not anything to do with the RECENT,read the word RECENT change in MOS to 15T.

Go BS someone else.


So Bryan ,where have I lied or mislead about what you did in the Military?

Are we all as stupid as you,or that you think we are ?

So You have never claimed on any site to have been in the Infantry ?
Liar

That is why you went back and posted the definition of Fraud as applied to the Military.
You can claim what ever you want,according to you,as long as you do not claim to have been in an Elite unit like Rangers or Special Forces.
You claimed to have been in the infantry,that is why the qualifier of the Fraud Post.

quote Bryan:
"However, I am a "Expert" in all aspects of "Close Quarter Combat" including H2H, Blunt Weapons, Edged Weapons, and Firearms."

Qualified as an expert in the above by whom ?
Yourself,lol.

Bryan you are a joke and the more you write the more I will rip your insanity apart.
Go home and take some meds and dream of cross border ops and teaching you brand odf expertise,LOL.

[JimH]

quote Bryan
"However, I am a "Expert" in all aspects of "Close Quarter Combat" including H2H, Blunt Weapons, Edged Weapons, and Firearms"

Back in March or April when you started going on about Combat sambo,I asked you to post one thing pertaining to Self Defense and you said your favorite move was to bite the opponents Achilles tendon.
LOL
Yep you are an expert in H2H.
are the Blunt force weapons your teeth ?
LOL

Bryan do you even realize how much of a joke you are ?

I notice that when many from Bullshido stopped posting you returned.
Whats up Bryan ?
Think they could find more that you lied about and claimed while on their forum running your mouth and contributing Zero?

Bryan the Handy Man of all forms of self defense ,knows a little about a few things and is therefore qualified to be a Master/Expert of all.
LOL

[Bryan Lee]

 JimH, You're so called facts about me are inaccurate and at times complete fabrications. You are not capable of comprehending nor interpreting the public records about me and you have never had access to any of my confidential records to know anything. To keep this simple, you are full of shit.

[Wardog]

23 months is far from the complete story but it is a public record that anyone can check.-Bryan Lee

  I am curious what this statement means.  I may be reading it wrong but it appears to imply a "secret agent" thing. 23 months on record but tons of stuff that is Top Secret.

[Bryan Lee]

23 months is far from the complete story but it is a public record that anyone can check.-Bryan Lee

  I am curious what this statement means.  I may be reading it wrong but it appears to imply a "secret agent" thing. 23 months on record but tons of stuff that is Top Secret.

  War Dog, No need to read into it, some things are public records and some things are not. It does not serve my purpose to relate military stories that are not public records. I have never been in Combat as a service member, Im not CIA, I have never claimed to be any kind of "Secret Agent" and it would be a violation to be posting using my real name if I was some kind of spook.

 JimH has chosen to make a very personal attack on me and my military records but the origination of all this relates back to Marc Denny and Gabe Suarez making a attack on my patriotism for my choice as a American to choose Islam as my religion. I took acceptation to their attack, pointed out that neither one of them, both being latter day superpatriots, had even served in the military. Later I came to understand that Marc Denny was some kind of Draft Dodger and found out Gabe Suarez was fired from the police and convicted of fraud. From there I  have watched our CQC Community on the net turn into a dick measuring contest and like all contests between pricks, some have chosen to lie about their size and girth along with the quality and volume of their ejaculate. In the case of JimH, he has just chose to tell lies and misrepresent facts about me to make himself look like the bigger prick.

As far as my military background I will stick with public records, beyond that I have few comments. Concerning CQC, I have a depth of knowledge from years of study, practice, and application.

[JimH]

I have attacked your military record ?

I have attacked nothing.

You,Bryan,asked what this forum turned into that allowed me to call you liar without evidence.
I then put up my evidence,none of which was disputed by you.
The only claim on it to your military was you have said on other sites that you were in the infantry,I said you Lied,you were a Helo mechanic.

You,Bryan then listed the military definition of fraud,to cover yourself as to why you felt you could get away with the infantry claim.

You then said that I misled everyone about your record because I indicated you were a Helo repairman.
You then came back to claim you were a 15 T Elite  helo Repairman.
I produced your Original and only MOS 67T10.
(which you verified in your post)
You then claimed a 15T MOS.even though that is a fairly recent change.
You were never given the 15T Mos,Change to Combat Arms,as you served over 23 years ago and the 15T is a new Mos.915 T is still a Helo repairman MOS just that it is now under a Combat arms banner)

So again you posted BS and thought I and others would take your word and swallow it.
I then posted the job description of the 67T10 and the 15T,none of which at E-2 level would make you Elite among the elite of repairmen.

You have written of your problems in the military and your confinement,as well as your so called pension for disability(not verified )
so if what i have written is a lie then it a lie that came fro your mouth.

You write what you want about me.
You write what you want about others.
You make claims to be doing research on Frauds for your own good and even on the behalf of the military.

So I have used your words and what you have posted to show you for what you are a FRAUD,Fake ,Liar, with a service related mental disability 9claimed by you) which apparently causes you to see and glorify yourself.

You claim to be an Expert in so much ,with qualifications in none,(self admitted by you).
I have pointed that out.

You are on a site,this site, claiming so much and when asked to talk about and contribute to a conversation rather than rant on and attack words,you then posted on about an ankle and Achilles tendon bite,LOL.
The best you could come up with from your vast experiences running Under cover ops and cross border ops along with training with and following the "Infidels" LOL.
(I wonder why now when asked why you decide not to tell about your One man and small group ops ?)
Have you ever written that you have carried out one man and small group operations ,along with cross border operations Bryan ?
You know you have,so don't lie now.

You ,Bryan, can try to blow me off ,and try to say that what I have posted is a lie and an attack on you,yet you and I both know it is spot on.
I have not exposed more on you than you have on those you come on here to belittle and get info on.
You say that I am carrying on for Denny and Suarez yet I have not ever posted or read their stuff in regards to you.
I am sure they are just others in the long list you have attacked who have decided to not take your crap and decided to attack back.

You Bryan came back on here and the first post back decide to attack me again.
Attack me,I attack you,common self defense tactics No ? (expert)

BS others but you cannot BS Me.

You talk of Wagner and you are the same,only he is more qualified than you,LOL Imagine that.

Now go back to teaching Self Defense arts you are not qualified to teach and shooting skills from a class you took once.
Teach that deadly Achilles heel thing,they must love that one,LOL,LOL.
Sorry ,IN YOUR MIND you are an EXPERT,LOL.

[Bryan Lee]

I have attacked your military record ?

I have attacked nothing.

You,Bryan,asked what this forum turned into that allowed me to call you liar without evidence.
I then put up my evidence,none of which was disputed by you.
The only claim on it to your military was you have said on other sites that you were in the infantry,I said you Lied,you were a Helo mechanic.

You,Bryan then listed the military definition of fraud,to cover yourself as to why you felt you could get away with the infantry claim.

You then said that I misled everyone about your record because I indicated you were a Helo repairman.
You then came back to claim you were a 15 T Elite  helo Repairman.
I produced your Original and only MOS 67T10.
(which you verified in your post)
You then claimed a 15T MOS.even though that is a fairly recent change.
You were never given the 15T Mos,Change to Combat Arms,as you served over 23 years ago and the 15T is a new Mos.915 T is still a Helo repairman MOS just that it is now under a Combat arms banner)

So again you posted BS and thought I and others would take your word and swallow it.
I then posted the job description of the 67T10 and the 15T,none of which at E-2 level would make you Elite among the elite of repairmen.

You have written of your problems in the military and your confinement,as well as your so called pension for disability(not verified )
so if what i have written is a lie then it a lie that came fro your mouth.

You write what you want about me.
You write what you want about others.
You make claims to be doing research on Frauds for your own good and even on the behalf of the military.

So I have used your words and what you have posted to show you for what you are a FRAUD,Fake ,Liar, with a service related mental disability 9claimed by you) which apparently causes you to see and glorify yourself.

You claim to be an Expert in so much ,with qualifications in none,(self admitted by you).
I have pointed that out.

You are on a site,this site, claiming so much and when asked to talk about and contribute to a conversation rather than rant on and attack words,you then posted on about an ankle and Achilles tendon bite,LOL.
The best you could come up with from your vast experiences running Under cover ops and cross border ops along with training with and following the "Infidels" LOL.
(I wonder why now when asked why you decide not to tell about your One man and small group ops ?)
Have you ever written that you have carried out one man and small group operations ,along with cross border operations Bryan ?
You know you have,so don't lie now.

You ,Bryan, can try to blow me off ,and try to say that what I have posted is a lie and an attack on you,yet you and I both know it is spot on.
I have not exposed more on you than you have on those you come on here to belittle and get info on.
You say that I am carrying on for Denny and Suarez yet I have not ever posted or read their stuff in regards to you.
I am sure they are just others in the long list you have attacked who have decided to not take your crap and decided to attack back.

You Bryan came back on here and the first post back decide to attack me again.
Attack me,I attack you,common self defense tactics No ? (expert)

BS others but you cannot BS Me.

You talk of Wagner and you are the same,only he is more qualified than you,LOL Imagine that.

Now go back to teaching Self Defense arts you are not qualified to teach and shooting skills from a class you took once.
Teach that deadly Achilles heel thing,they must love that one,LOL,LOL.
Sorry ,IN YOUR MIND you are an EXPERT,LOL.

  JimH, You are a liar, you are misrepresenting the facts, you are writing about me in complete ignorance. You cannot back up your story with documents or facts. I have never claimed to be "Infantry" and you damn well know it. 67T and 15T are exactly the same thing, in your complete ignorance you are trying to make some kind of case based on this? Next you will claim I do not have a Army Aviation Badge and that anyone can be a Army Aviator, the most Elite Group in the Army. I have never made any "Uniformed" claims outside of 23 months of my life 20 years ago, what I have done and accomplished outside of Active Duty is a separate matter.

  JimH, You, the bigshot Special Forces guy were so dumb you got ripped off by Jim Wagner. Now you act like the authority on the subject of Wagner when your the only guy I know who was actually in the room with the man and he had you mesmerized with TACTICAL. Now you go off about Jim Wagner when you find out he was bullshitting his way around the CQC Community but the truth is, without me you would have never known. You are completely ignorant on this subject matter yet you present yourself as the Military Expert? Ninja Please!

[JimH]

Bryan,
Again you call me a liar ?

You have on other sites made claims and suggestions to have been in the Infantry.
(again this is why you posted the Fraud piece to cover being able to make such claim)

When you served you were a 67T10 .
At the time you served approx 23 years ago,67T was NOT a Combat Arms designated MOS.
Now as a 15T ,still the same job,it is Now a Combat Arms designated MOS.

You can say because it is the same job that you are a 15T but it is not your MOS.

You make claim to an aviators Badge,so what ?
Are you a Pilot ?
No
Fly during Combat Missions ?
NO (self admitted)

Sorry,the badge does not make one Elite.
If you believe your 67T10 or 15T makes you Elite,for training in or riding in a Helo,then Good for You.
(training in various arts with expertise in none has made you a H2H and weapons expert,Right?)

So according then to the Army you qualify due to one of the following:
The following is from Army Awards:

"Basic Aviation Badge – Permanent Award. Individual must be on flying status as a crewmember in accordance with AR 600-106 or be granted a waiver by HQDA, be on flying status, have performed in-flight duties for not less than 48 flight hours (whichever comes first), or be school trained;  injured as the result of an aircraft accident for which he or she was not personally responsible; Soldiers upon successful completion of formal advanced individual training (AIT) in career management field (CMF) 67 and 93 MOS', who graduated from a (CMF) 67 AIT prior to 30 September 1996 ; graduated from a (CMF) 67 AIT after 31 December 1985 are authorized based on documents prior AIT;  The commander of any Army unit that has Army aircraft assigned may authorize in published orders qualified personnel of his or her command to wear the Aviation Badge. The individual must be performing in-flight duties."

In the above I removed the parts pertaining to Combat missions,Officers,Astronauts and MOS not applicable in your case.

So from the above Army awards designations what makes you Elite ?
Being in an MOS that means you are or were part of an Air Crew?
Keep that badge Polished up for when you have dress up.
( I bet you wear it on your jacket or shirt down at the local Bar/hangout with the other ex pats)

You keep adding "I have never made "UNIFORMED" claims outside of my 23 months" and "What I have done and accomplished  since military service is a separate matter".
Now what are you trying to claim or imply that after your discharge (supposed Medical) that you did and or performed other Army,or other, designated training or Covert Ops that you cannot speak of ?
LOL
You already said you never served in any such capcity,yet you still make implications.
Or
Are you speaking of your PRIVATE Ops that you have talked of in the past.
LOL


Quote Bryan Lee
"  JimH, You, the bigshot Special Forces guy were so dumb you got ripped off by Jim Wagner"

I did not get ripped off.
I got what I paid for ,training in ,and certification in Wagner's system.
As I have said Wagner's system is usable,while being basic across the board.(never said otherwise)
My problem with Wagner is his Hyped up sales pitch,same as my Problem with Krav maga,(The materials and training in Krav Maga are also Good)

This is also now my problem with you Bryan,you portray yourself as some righteous searcher for Frauds and Fakes and you are One.
No different than Wagner and or Others who make False claims and or portray themselves as something they are not to sell themselves or their abilities.
Example
Your persistence to call yourself a Combat sambo Instructor and sell Combat Sambo training even when told Multiple times you could not by Steve Sambo.

Without you I,we ,would have never known Wagner  was not qualified in what he said ?
What have you been smoking dude ?
Please show me where I have EVER said I agreed with Wagner's sales Method ?

I have been on this and many forums talking about the misuse of hype by Wagner,Krav Maga and others  for Years.

Hock ,I, and many others have had their say about Wagner and others well before you.

Please show me your posts on the fraud of Wagner with dates and where posted so I can look at them.

I claim No military Expertise,I do have Opinions though as I have done and served in International Military Training,am Certified as having graduated many International and National schools and have served in the US Marine Corps and US Army,and US Marine Corps Reserves,US Army Reserve and served a short stint on Temporary Duty with Navy Special Warfare,trained with the SAS,GSG9 and Israelis.
If I have claimed expertise please show me where.

I have never claimed expertise in anything though I have vast experiences in many Jobs including but not limited to Bodyguard work for the US Government and civilian,Private,Security ,Bouncer,/Door man,Police Officer at a Housing Project in the Bronx NY,Fire Fighter,just to name a few jobs.

I have never claimed expertise in the self defense community though I am certified as a Military Instructor and qualified and certified to teach H2H,4th Degree in Hapkido 2nd Degree in TKD,certified as a Wagner instructor,am qualified as a weapons Instructor for martial arts weapons (as well as military) and have training in a vast array of martial arts training with some of the most notable people in Self defense since 1969.

If I have ever claimed Expertise or to be an "EXPERT" ,as you have, please show me this claim.

I give my opinions on what I have some knowledge about and participate in Discussion forums to share knowledge.
Some though see forums as a way to incite ,to those I am willing to take it back to them,they seem to think they have the right to smack someone and expect nothing to return to them.

Yep Bryan I am just a fool getting ripped off ,and I need you to keep me straight LOL.



You,Bryan are a Fake,Fraud,Liar and MISFIT.
You are a BS artist and dream of yourself as some super agent and self professed Expert in many fields,LOL.
Helo repairman to Covert operator running missions on your own.
LOL
Sorry I did not go mental in the military and sorry I did not do a couple of Tae kwon Do and Hapkido lessons like you.
Hey but you have done some Muay Thai in Thailand so you must be BAD,LOL.
(Yep your one contribution to self defense discussion,Bite the ankle and achilles tendon)
LOL
Such Expertise.

[JimH]

I see the other off shoot thread "JimH to Bryan Lee" is gone now.

Moved to Arnold's,lol.

[Hock]

Yes...wanted to keep the Camp X subject...just Camp X...

Hock

[Milldog1776]

Hock,

I think these two skidmarks should have their own board. That way they can fuck up their own posts, and leave the rest of us to talk about the topics the threads are posted as. Nobody really cares what they have to say about each other anyway...so just cull them from the herd.