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Author Topic: Frank Dux...Bubbling to the surface?  (Read 13391 times)

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Re: Frank Dux...Bubbling to the surface?
« Reply #135 on: December 12, 2010, 12:28:59 PM »

Kent- ignore him-he likes to push cyberspace buttons and see what happens-he keeps saying he is quiting the forum but then he pops back up-sounds like he has a fetish for
bouncing around the webb-for all we know he m ight be the secret Dux-???????
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Re: Frank Dux...Bubbling to the surface?
« Reply #136 on: December 13, 2010, 05:11:39 PM »

 I can prove it. I just need you to answer a couple questions for me.
 
1. Is Frank's secret man book: 1/2 true
                                         1/3 true
                                         3/4 true

2. Was Dux really a Marine or was it a William Casey cover Story with trumped up military docs. to cover his amazing assignments

                       I'm waiting Hock.........WAITING
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JimH

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Re: Frank Dux...Bubbling to the surface?
« Reply #137 on: December 13, 2010, 07:14:18 PM »

quote
"Is Frank's secret man book: 1/2 true
                                         1/3 true
                                         3/4 true"

I think that question has not been answered as there is no answer which allows

                                             0 true
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Bryan

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Re: Frank Dux...Bubbling to the surface?
« Reply #138 on: December 15, 2010, 01:28:07 AM »

It is all boring because, as I said earlier, it is all trumped by...

                                                   The "Top Secret Card"

It's all top secret! Nothing anyone asks makes any sense or counts. No answer makes any sense or fits anything because it is trumped by the "wink-wink/nod-nod" top secret card.

I was actually Dux's boss's boss! I can't discuss it all, because - well, it is all top secret. Now prove me wrong.

Hock

Some things are secret for a reason; Even accountants have been known to work "Off The Books" so whats new? Anyway, I'm bored with the entire subject and most people are not interested in this stuff anyway. In the case of Wagner you guys have been relentless and the dude is still in business, still out there teaching. It all seems like an exercise in futility unless you enjoy typing up a bunch of bullshit. Chirping/Typing on and on about Frank Dux like a bunch of little bitches, that's priceless, aka, will not pay the bills.


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Re: Frank Dux...Bubbling to the surface?
« Reply #139 on: December 15, 2010, 08:45:26 AM »

Man, when I think I have no life or that it sucks, you're always there to cheer me up Bryan.  Every time I read your posts in threads that bore you, it puts a big smile on my face.

Kent
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Re: Frank Dux...Bubbling to the surface?
« Reply #140 on: December 15, 2010, 10:34:55 AM »

quote Bryan
"some things are SECRET for a Reason"
then why :
1) Do the Job if it was so bothersome and illegal
2) "WRITE A BOOK ABOUT YOUR SECRET GOVERNMENT WORK, and claim such outrageous BS (Intel OFFICER,Man Hunter,Weapon of Mass Destruction expert,as a few varied claims)
3) Continue to deny the facts that YOU wrote in YOUR book but still claim the book as real.
4) Sit down for interviews and then claim that the words are twisted and not what was said,and continue to do interviews.
5) Hawk yourself out as an expert in fields you have no clue of .(SWAT and DRUG Trafficing and Enforcement)

Secret units exist and the MAJORITY who do those jobs ,never tell of what they have done and DO NOT WRITE BOOKS AND GIVE INTERVIEWS and change the stories.

We will not even get into ALL the BS of the Martial arts and those claims.

Senzo Tanake did exist and was a farmer ,not spy ,agent or ninja.
Senzo Tanaka was NEVER a Long Time Kumite Champion of any Note,nor does it seem a martial artist.
Tanaka was in his 80's in the 70's when Dux claims to have trained with him.
Dux left all of his instructors on a bad note,I wonder why.
Senzo Tanaka did die in 1975 when Dux joined the USMC
But
According to a DUX Quote,Tanaka and Dux had not talked for a long time,parted with a bad feeling between the two.

The Dux kumite experience was BS
Dux even admits that claims made about his skill at the supposed Kumite were all made up
He Has No Records,which he admits himself . (or are those words written by him also BS now ?)
According to Dux,he basically says,Lets be real does anyone with logic think those records could really have been made.
LOL

What ranks did Mr Dux get from any instructor he has ever mentioned ?
None
What rank ahs he ever said he was awarded by the over 80 year old Tanaka ?
None
Yet he MADE Himself a 10th Degree by starting his own system based on BS stories.

I know people who know many of those Dux says were in the KUMITE,and they were told it is all BS.
I Know People Dux Mentions as having been at /in the Kumite and they say ,with a wink and a nod,it is BS.

Does anyone believe that if a KUMITE existed people like Joe Lewis,Draeger,Gary Alexander,and other fight hungry martial artists would not have been asked to be in it and would not have sought those events out ?

Just like Perkins of attack proof,a Police Officer at the time he makes the claims of having fought  in Underground death matches in the NY/NJ area.(Please  with all this none checkable BS that everyone swallows because it peeks their interest)

Bryan  Says:
This type of forum is DEAD.
This Forum is Boring,(except when he needs help digging up dirt on others)

Why come on here when your interests and contribution to the forum have nothing to do with MA or SD in any manner ?

Why not just use your own Blog,site forum to tell the truth for ole Frank then.

See the Reality is that when you type in the Phonies names Hocks site is there and interested people ,who actually do research, can look,read and then decide to spend their money and or save it.

Phonies who may have skills but sell BS stories to make themselves more important than they are:
Dux
Wagner
Aizik
Kanarek
Webb
Todd
To name but a few.
Let us not leave ole Bryan out as a BS artists,but he has no skill and nothing of note to sell in the way of Martial arts and training,(By his own admission),yet he tries selling training and skills or running clubs and or so called events and he has some stories to tell ,like ole Frank,lol.

See Bryan ,you and Dux share a lot:
Left military service before the contract was up
Claim secret missions for yourselves and or for the Government
Claim skills you do not have and sell skills which are made up of bits and pieces of past experiences
And you have both been the subject of attacks at the hands of those on Bullshido.
So of course it is easy for you to align with Mr Dux and support him as you understand each other.

I am sure you will reply,so just write how it all bores you,LOL.
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Bryan

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Re: Frank Dux...Bubbling to the surface?
« Reply #141 on: December 15, 2010, 12:03:15 PM »

Man, when I think I have no life or that it sucks, you're always there to cheer me up Bryan.  Every time I read your posts in threads that bore you, it puts a big smile on my face.

Kent

I get a smile every time I see you type my name; lol.

Bryan

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Re: Frank Dux...Bubbling to the surface?
« Reply #142 on: December 15, 2010, 12:05:18 PM »

quote Bryan
"some things are SECRET for a Reason"
then why :
1) Do the Job if it was so bothersome and illegal
2) "WRITE A BOOK ABOUT YOUR SECRET GOVERNMENT WORK, and claim such outrageous BS (Intel OFFICER,Man Hunter,Weapon of Mass Destruction expert,as a few varied claims)
3) Continue to deny the facts that YOU wrote in YOUR book but still claim the book as real.
4) Sit down for interviews and then claim that the words are twisted and not what was said,and continue to do interviews.
5) Hawk yourself out as an expert in fields you have no clue of .(SWAT and DRUG Trafficing and Enforcement)

Secret units exist and the MAJORITY who do those jobs ,never tell of what they have done and DO NOT WRITE BOOKS AND GIVE INTERVIEWS and change the stories.

We will not even get into ALL the BS of the Martial arts and those claims.

Senzo Tanake did exist and was a farmer ,not spy ,agent or ninja.
Senzo Tanaka was NEVER a Long Time Kumite Champion of any Note,nor does it seem a martial artist.
Tanaka was in his 80's in the 70's when Dux claims to have trained with him.
Dux left all of his instructors on a bad note,I wonder why.
Senzo Tanaka did die in 1975 when Dux joined the USMC
But
According to a DUX Quote,Tanaka and Dux had not talked for a long time,parted with a bad feeling between the two.

The Dux kumite experience was BS
Dux even admits that claims made about his skill at the supposed Kumite were all made up
He Has No Records,which he admits himself . (or are those words written by him also BS now ?)
According to Dux,he basically says,Lets be real does anyone with logic think those records could really have been made.
LOL

What ranks did Mr Dux get from any instructor he has ever mentioned ?
None
What rank ahs he ever said he was awarded by the over 80 year old Tanaka ?
None
Yet he MADE Himself a 10th Degree by starting his own system based on BS stories.

I know people who know many of those Dux says were in the KUMITE,and they were told it is all BS.
I Know People Dux Mentions as having been at /in the Kumite and they say ,with a wink and a nod,it is BS.

Does anyone believe that if a KUMITE existed people like Joe Lewis,Draeger,Gary Alexander,and other fight hungry martial artists would not have been asked to be in it and would not have sought those events out ?

Just like Perkins of attack proof,a Police Officer at the time he makes the claims of having fought  in Underground death matches in the NY/NJ area.(Please  with all this none checkable BS that everyone swallows because it peeks their interest)

Bryan  Says:
This type of forum is DEAD.
This Forum is Boring,(except when he needs help digging up dirt on others)

Why come on here when your interests and contribution to the forum have nothing to do with MA or SD in any manner ?

Why not just use your own Blog,site forum to tell the truth for ole Frank then.

See the Reality is that when you type in the Phonies names Hocks site is there and interested people ,who actually do research, can look,read and then decide to spend their money and or save it.

Phonies who may have skills but sell BS stories to make themselves more important than they are:
Dux
Wagner
Aizik
Kanarek
Webb
Todd
To name but a few.
Let us not leave ole Bryan out as a BS artists,but he has no skill and nothing of note to sell in the way of Martial arts and training,(By his own admission),yet he tries selling training and skills or running clubs and or so called events and he has some stories to tell ,like ole Frank,lol.

See Bryan ,you and Dux share a lot:
Left military service before the contract was up
Claim secret missions for yourselves and or for the Government
Claim skills you do not have and sell skills which are made up of bits and pieces of past experiences
And you have both been the subject of attacks at the hands of those on Bullshido.
So of course it is easy for you to align with Mr Dux and support him as you understand each other.

I am sure you will reply,so just write how it all bores you,LOL.

JimH, Are you smoking weed?

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Re: Frank Dux...Bubbling to the surface?
« Reply #143 on: December 15, 2010, 03:09:01 PM »

All of us under cover Top Secret Narco Task Force Officers smoke weed as we pack up the CIA/NSC aircraft to carry the opium out of Afghanistan to NY.
Didn't Frank tell you that Bryan ?
How the heck do you think we can write books,give interviews and believe all the BS we sling that gets the gulible to listen to our Self Created Greatness.
LOL
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Re: Frank Dux...Bubbling to the surface?
« Reply #144 on: December 15, 2010, 03:38:57 PM »

All of us under cover Top Secret Narco Task Force Officers smoke weed as we pack up the CIA/NSC aircraft to carry the opium out of Afghanistan to NY.
Didn't Frank tell you that Bryan ?
How the heck do you think we can write books,give interviews and believe all the BS we sling that gets the gulible to listen to our Self Created Greatness.
LOL

It figures, nothing against smoking but it seems kinda hypocritical for you to pretend like your serious when your just stoned.

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Re: Frank Dux...Bubbling to the surface?
« Reply #145 on: December 15, 2010, 03:40:15 PM »

I thought this thread reeked of something...I thought it was just BS, but now I know it's all the wacky tobacky being consumed by some of the posters.

If I ever get to come up New York and train with you, JimH, you must follow the cardinal rule of weed smoking: Puff, puff, pass...puff, puff, pass. ;)

I think some of you fellas are hogging the pipe! This actually explains a lot about all the drama and the lack of answers...folks are too high to remember the questions!

Here's one of them again, just for chuckles and grins:

Is Frank's "The Secret Man" book: 1/2 true
                                              1/3 true
                                              3/4 true

Put the bong down and the stash away...eat some pizza and try to answer this simple question. If it's actually a work of fiction, just say so! I like a good fictional read as much as the next fella, I just don't like people using a nonexistent military background or specialty for a profit. The whole "Stolen Valor" thing really gets my goat (sorry, just couldn't help myself with that one! ;D).

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Re: Frank Dux...Bubbling to the surface?
« Reply #146 on: December 15, 2010, 03:44:30 PM »

All of us under cover Top Secret Narco Task Force Officers smoke weed as we pack up the CIA/NSC aircraft to carry the opium out of Afghanistan to NY.
Didn't Frank tell you that Bryan ?
How the heck do you think we can write books,give interviews and believe all the BS we sling that gets the gulible to listen to our Self Created Greatness.
LOL

It figures, nothing against smoking but it seems kinda hypocritical for you to pretend like your serious when your just stoned.

Maybe he's seriously stoned?
What's sad is that JimH's responses make more sense than anything I've read from Mr. Dux. Some people should really stay away from the herb.

I'm just saying!
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Dwight D. Eisenhower
‎"Never turn your back on fear. It should always be in front of you, like a thing that might have to be killed." - Hunter S. Thompson

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Re: Frank Dux...Bubbling to the surface?
« Reply #147 on: December 15, 2010, 04:59:48 PM »

Mr Dux can write a book on his actions and how screwed up the Government is and his friend Lt Cmdr Al Martin,who swore Dux "DEBRIEFED" him on operation Cordova Harbor,can write a series of books about the US being one big Drug Cartel ,run by certain families and people in the Government and allowed to use the CIA and NSC.
(Funny mr Dux says that Mr Martin Says he ,Mr Dux was BRIEFING a  group when they first met.BIG Difference between BRIEFRING and DEBRIEFRING.
Mr Dux and his friends tell all,supposedly,in their books but then clam up and claim the Privilege of Secrecy as dictated by their Supposed actions being classified as top secret.

Mr Dux writes here, Hey any information i write may endanger others,yet he wrote a Tell all Book as did his friend.
LOL

Secrecy counts ,and is enacted,only when asked a direct question or questions by people who maybe able to blow the BS out of the water.
Secrecy goes out the window when looking for a buck.

Mr Dux and Bryan were on this forum to clear up nothing ,to speak of Nothing ,it was just a platform to run their anti Bullshido BS.

It is all BS and people know it but just want the phonies to say it is BS from their own mouths.
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