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Author Topic: Police caught in sting-Chicago area  (Read 733 times)

whitewolf

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Police caught in sting-Chicago area
« on: December 03, 2008, 09:02:24 AM »

Saw on the yahoo news of the FBI sting in chicago-15 police officers caught dealing in drugs-story is pretty amazing with discussion on the undercover ops that occured .
Pilots to business men-all undercover-i give them credit-lots of guts-unsung heros.
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Re: Police caught in sting-Chicago area
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2008, 10:56:15 AM »

Those guys are a disgrace to my brothers in blue, and are not worthy of the badge they wear. I hope they get the maximum sentence, if guilty and convicted.
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Re: Police caught in sting-Chicago area
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2008, 02:54:24 PM »

Those guys are a disgrace to my brothers in blue, and are not worthy of the badge they wear. I hope they get the maximum sentence, if guilty and convicted.

You're right, and they give people like me another reason to distrust the police.  I don't know another way to say this, other than the police wield power and authority all out of proportion to the oversight they receive.


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Re: Police caught in sting-Chicago area
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2008, 11:05:51 PM »

Those guys are a disgrace to my brothers in blue, and are not worthy of the badge they wear. I hope they get the maximum sentence, if guilty and convicted.

You're right, and they give people like me another reason to distrust the police.  I don't know another way to say this, other than the police wield power and authority all out of proportion to the oversight they receive.


Kent

I don't think that is true in most cases. Where I work---and where I used to work, everything is recorded on camera and audio, and believe me, complaints are taken seriously and there are repercussions if someone violates policy or the law. Cops really have to toe the line today, and they are prosecuted on a regular basis. I know that things happen, particularly in bigger cities, but I have never seen any criminal activity by the guys I work or worked with.
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Re: Police caught in sting-Chicago area
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2008, 05:53:01 AM »

Ill go along with Mke-I think most are hard working -one just have to  watch if something does not feel right when dealing with tthem-one bad apple spoils the batch-WW (ELB)
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Re: Police caught in sting-Chicago area
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2008, 06:42:44 AM »

Through the years, this kind of scandal has hit so many major cities across the USA. There will be more. As a kid growing up int he NYC area in 50s and 60s. well... just think of Serpico.

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Re: Police caught in sting-Chicago area
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2008, 08:50:28 AM »

Once it's in the media, there will be no cover-up.  Prosecuters go after LEOs with a vegenence that they don't always use on civilian criminals.  If they did this, I hope they're convicted and receive a harsh sentence.  But I wish prosecuters did the same thing for the common scumbags that plead felonies into misdemeanors time and time again.
There's a common mantra in the police business: if you do it once, they've got you.  Someone facing a jail sentence will turn in a LEO in a heartbeat, and the investigation turns to focus on that officer no matter how far in he is.  Everyone knows this, yet some still succumb.
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Re: Police caught in sting-Chicago area
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2008, 09:05:03 AM »

Through the years, this kind of scandal has hit so many major cities across the USA. There will be more. As a kid growing up int he NYC area in 50s and 60s. well... just think of Serpico.

Hock

I've been training a "rookie" who is a retired, 25 year veteran of the NYPD. We talked about the Serpico case and corruption there, and he tells me that it happens, but is not as widespread as the media portrays it (imagine that!). Of course, with the size of the NYPD, it is no surprise that there are corrupt cops there. After all, cops are merely a reflection of the society they police, and are human, for better or worse.
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Re: Police caught in sting-Chicago area
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2008, 10:10:36 AM »

 There are good cops and bad cops like there are bad garbagemen and good garbagemen. The problem is the bad garbageman doesn't pull me over, lecture me about speeding(something his police friends will let him drive off from) and then hand me a big honking ticket he won't knock down a smidgen, all the while breaking other laws himself. Despite swearing to enforce the law and the assumption would be to abide by it, they don't .Yet they see no hypocrisy in arresting somebody for some minor infraction and designating them scum at the same time. Like being a cocaine snorting judge in to child porn and lecturing and sentencing someone for stealing a bike. People in authority, I hate to say it, have to remain spotless or they lose that authority in they eyes of the public. It drags down their whole profession.

  I have 3 cousins(brothers) who are police officers( I tried but my vision pre-the laser surgery days did not cut it) and a very close friend in the upper echelons of U.S Federal law enforcement.  I do not take this issue lightly or look to bash law enforcement. But man, I hate guys who put on the badge that are worse than the criminals they pretend to despise and arrest.
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Re: Police caught in sting-Chicago area
« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2008, 10:23:24 AM »

Hmm...it wasn't my intention to bash law enforcement.  However, even talking some police officers, I haven't heard a lot of good things about their fellow police.  I knew some guys who did some work with a state police agency a few years ago, and I heard stories about the officers driving their patrol cars around while drunk, and drinking.

Is it perhaps blown out of proportion by the media?  Yes.  Is it still cause for serious concern, and do I think there should be higher standards, and more oversight for police officers?  Absolutely.


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