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Author Topic: Aam Ka Jutsu  (Read 2834 times)

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Aam Ka Jutsu
« on: March 09, 2005, 04:09:02 AM »

Has anyone heared of this style of MA.
The flyer states it has been around since 1968 & that it is the 1st mixed MA.
Any info would be great.

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Re: Aam Ka Jutsu
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2005, 07:38:54 AM »

I agree with Hock.
Beware of what you step into. There are so many people claiming this and that and their system is the best. Just look at any martial art magazine. I have wasted lots of money over the years buying different video's. After 9/11 I saw an increase in the martial arts schools that opened up. Most are people who payed for thier blackbelt. I have studied Wing Chun (no belts), The real JKD (no belts) and still study Diato Ryu Aiki Jujutsu. I checked into Crav Maga and after some research found that none of the insturctor are recoganized by Israel. The American association is a farse. I contacted a guy named Moni Aizik's gruop and found that none of the Carv instructors are listed as associates of him. So just beware of the direction you take and where you step. You may end up whith a bunch of poo in your shoes.
A good thing to learn is Hock's program.
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Re: Aam Ka Jutsu
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2005, 08:47:39 AM »

I researched High and Low before getting into hocks system. I left a very political system prior too Hocks system. One in wich I will not disclose.
I felt the best way to gauge a system is how practical it is and if they are addressing your self defense needs correctly.
Im very pro fear management.
I feel it holds value. Hocks system despite what naysayers say. Has very complete doctrine. Every now and then I tie other things into it. Hocks system is a great foundational system. There are some of complain and whine about the 10 levels that hock has. I dont care Im training in it regardless. I feel each instructor can add other curriculums in any ways. Not because it needs it but because you want too.


I enjoy this system too much.

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Re: Aam Ka Jutsu
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2005, 09:52:46 AM »

There is also "Catch-as-catch-can" wrestling which was essentially grappling with strikes, finger wrentches, etc. added in.  I generally go by the old Chinese proverb "There are no new techniques, just forgotten ones."  If you are involved in MA long enough, it becomes like fashion, you see styles come in and out, but, they are slightly different than the origional.  Just enough for you to jump up and down and scream, "Hey!  That is just like so and so was doing 10 years ago but they are doing it this way!!". 

I agree with these other guys.  I came out of kung-fu, then classical eskrima.  I searched around for about 2 years before finding Hock.  I made phone calls to these other guys, sent e-mails, checked web-sites, talked to people, went to seminars, etc.  Hock had not only the best set up, most realistic approach, and quickest learning environment, but he was also a great guy too.  I got severely shafted by my old instructor (but, that is a whole other post), but, Hock has always been up front, honest, and square dealin' with me.  There comes a time when that counts for a lot!  The character of the people involved in an organization speaks volumes about it.  I still firmly believe I am right where I need to be! ;)
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Re: Aam Ka Jutsu
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2010, 06:20:38 PM »

Here are some exciting video clips about this system...the first Mixed Martial arts!

http://www.google.com/search?q=Aam+Ka+Jutsu&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=UnY&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&prmd=v&source=univ&tbs=vid:1&tbo=u&ei=9E8hTIv8OIO88gbXurl4&sa=X&oi=video_result_group&ct=title&resnum=4&ved=0CCcQqwQwAw

Damn... watched that just before hitting the hay.
Gonna have nightmares... knowing that such lethal specimens are out there.... somewhere.... training... getting more lethal...
 :o
« Last Edit: January 27, 2011, 10:29:04 PM by Hock »
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Re: Aam Ka Jutsu
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2010, 06:28:31 PM »


With all due respect,  "exciting" is not the word that came to mind when I watched those clips.  ;D
« Last Edit: January 27, 2011, 10:29:51 PM by Hock »
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Re: Aam Ka Jutsu
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2010, 08:14:38 PM »

How about the word - Discusting-WW
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Re: Aam Ka Jutsu
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2010, 06:15:55 AM »


Are you kidding me! that was a thrill a minute! i actually broke out the popcorn
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Re: Aam Ka Jutsu
« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2010, 09:12:25 AM »

OK as long as you add butter to the popcorn- ;D WW
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Re: Aam Ka Jutsu
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2011, 10:31:41 PM »

This just in on the 6 year old thread...

Hello Sir,
 
You had some questions about the system on a forum, which was not properly addressed for you and the information you researched did not do the art any favors. I train Military, LEO's and FAM's as well as civilians of all ages, when  our founder died, Instructors from around the country began doing their own thing, and those videos  are a result of a fragmented system.
Aam-Ka-Jutsu  started in 1968 and was one of the first schools to offer cross training, different instructors bringing in all styles and ranges of fighting. It is and always will be a combative, I've trained soldiers all over the world and they believe in the system. As always it depends on the instructor and his credentials.
 
Thanks for your time, and have a great day!
Respectfully,
Master Rick Dye, Ph.D./Ma.D.Sc.
American Colleges of Mixed Martial Arts
253-854-7535
www.acmma-wa.com

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Re: Aam Ka Jutsu
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2011, 05:13:08 AM »

I don't know anything about the system so I don't know if the material is good or bad.

The name is kind of funny, because "Ka Jutsu" does not mean a system mixing Karate and Jujutsu.  "Jutsu" means techniques, and "Karate" means "empty hand" or "Chinese hand," depending on the kanji.  "Karate" as a martial arts name is actually short for "Karate-Do," which means "The Way of the Empty (or Chinese) Hand."  I've also seen "Karate-Jutsu," which would mean empty hand or Chinese hand techniques. 

"Ka Jutsu" is a term for some actual techniques that used to be taught, and "Ka" means "fire."  Ka Jutsu refers to old military techniques of setting fires and using primitive explosives and pyrotechnics. LOL

Leaving out older mixed systems that have been around for hundreds of years (everything has mixed with somehting else somewhere down the line,) there have been many people in modern times mixing systems before the term MMA became popular, and even long before Bruce Lee.  The various WWII Combatives systems often mixed Jujutsu, boxing, wresting, Judo, common street fighting, etc. and some of the instructors were doing this before WWII, teaching police and private citizens.  Paladin has been re-releasing some of the old manuals by these instructors. 

One system that has recently become popular due to the Sherlock Holmes movie is Bartitsu.

Others teach mixed systems without knowing it.  I've seen Americans doing "Jujutsu" that are really just doing Karate with added joint locks and throws.  I guess their teacher's teacher mixed some Jujutsu in what was taught and they thought that it was an entire Jujutsu system.

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Re: Aam Ka Jutsu
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2011, 08:32:43 AM »

I checked out the webb site-appears to be a family orientated school-i wish them luck in their endevors- WW
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Re: Aam Ka Jutsu
« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2011, 10:18:04 AM »

Then ka-jutsu would mean "empty technique"?  hmmmm....
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Re: Aam Ka Jutsu
« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2011, 01:27:02 PM »

Didn't professor Gui have something along those lines called "the empty headed technique"? From my understanding and observation it was based on a bunch of made up crap, hoping to fill the empty cranial ranges of the believing. Hence the "empty headed" reference.
Oh, and don't forget the bagpipe music!
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