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Author Topic: James M. Webb & Special Forces Combatives  (Read 11557 times)

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Re: James M. Webb & Special Forces Combatives
« Reply #45 on: January 31, 2010, 10:37:24 AM »

Mr Janich thank you for the follow up response.
Much Success to you.

If I may make a point on a statement on the first reply,to clarify a point to the others reading this as it pertains to the topic of this thread,Mr Webb.

After reading Mr Janich post again this morning I noticed a point that I read/skimmed over the first time and I would like to remark on.

Quote Mr Janich:
"As for Jim Webb not being SF, he never attended the Qualification or "Q" course. As such, he was only entitled to wear a beret while he was attached to first group. Once he left that unit, he no longer had that privilege."

I see what Mr Janich is saying as to how Mr Webb claimed to be a "GREEN BERET".
Up to the early to mid 80's people in units ATTACHED in SUPPORT of Special Forces/Green Berets were allowed to wear a Green Beret,but could not wear a FULL, FLASH(meaning they were SF Qualified).
They were supposed to wear a Green Beret with a bar/candy stripe under the Unit Insignia,or in Mr Webb's Case under his WO rank.
Some never wore the Bar/candy stripe.

Mr Webb used a play on words.
(Like Wagner does).
Mr Webb claims to have been a "Green Beret",which I guess he was in a play on words kind of  way,as he was allowed to wear the Beret as his role in an SF Support unit,Mr Webb just NEVER clarifies that he was NEVER Qualified in Special Forces to be a Full Flash Green Beret.
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Re: James M. Webb & Special Forces Combatives
« Reply #46 on: February 09, 2010, 11:45:42 AM »

By the way. This discussion is connected to this discussion.

http://hockscombatforum.com/index.php/topic,3735.0.html

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Re: James M. Webb & Special Forces Combatives
« Reply #47 on: February 09, 2010, 09:30:44 PM »

I remember the first ads in our local martial arts magazines for 'Geoff 'Tank' Todd' and his certified Master Chief Instructor of Special Forces Close Quarter Combatives line. I got tired just reading it so I never went. I did find out though that Mr Todd has never served a day in his life in any military force as a Master Chief Instructor of Special Forces Close Quarter Combatives. But then he has never claimed to. I was going to say 'never wore a uniform' but that isn't quite accurate, is it?' Wording is very important to perception as someone has already said.

One can well imagine the back-peddling and web site hyper-shredding performed as Webb was outed. We have some here in Australia that still claim connections to him and that other W, Wagner. I do note the Krav krowd have quietened down lately.

I just found it amusing that he is so keen to align himself with former military men and to train with them etc yet has never joined up. Why? He is, from all reports from people I respect, fit, skilled and very likeable and friendly. I was amused by the Harry Baldock angle too, claiming 80 years of teaching self defence in NZ, the oldest school in the known universe or whatever. Like JimH said, HB was known for teaching wrestling, physical culture and the like. I believe Todd did do a fair bit of bouncing in Dunedin. Not a large city but there are some tough lads down there. I did some bouncing too so I guess that's why I'm not as impressed as I should be. Never had to kill a drunk with my bare hands though, but at least I knew how. Not sure what that has to do with unarmed combat (sorry... combatives) but I'm searching for common ground here.
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Re: James M. Webb & Special Forces Combatives
« Reply #48 on: February 09, 2010, 11:00:41 PM »

"Not a large city but there are some tough lads down there. I did some bouncing too so I guess that's why I'm not as impressed as I should be." - Redcap

Good point. You know...bouncing...as in "working the door" (and I did a little too with a security company while going to college in the early 70s)...is like the bare bones entry level to the macho world.

Since we are gossiping full out. Remember Peyton Quinn, one of the first rubber rocket-man, helmet suit guys? His tough guy creds were strictly from working the door at infamous, unnamed "biker bars." I remember one guy saying that Quinn must have worked at the bar in Star Wars - given the amount of experiences and wisdom he derived. Given his age and when he started full time teaching? He must have started working the door at age 13.

Many of us cops have been paid overtime (and still are) to work the door at special events but I know there is a difference having the full powers of the state behind you as opposed to being a poor employee working the door with almost zero mojo. Still. Bubba. Its the door. Its better than nothing. But dude...its the door.

"Certified Master Chief Instructor of Special Forces Close Quarter Combatives" Whew! Man! That's a mouthful. Sorry, I don't have the balls to say I was that. Even if I was SF? You know even the term "Master Chief" means a lot more in many real-deal, real-world circles. I truly believe that if you throw that full title around you have to at very least be the so special breed who qualified as SF in some man's army, somewhere.

Todd may be just a swell guy. A smart guy with good, passed-on material. I'd like to meet him again and have a few drinks. Whatever. No hard feelings at all. But a screw is loose somewhere to play that word game.

Hock




 
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Re: James M. Webb & Special Forces Combatives
« Reply #49 on: February 10, 2010, 05:19:32 PM »

Wht's wrong with CMCISFCQC?

I think it rolls off the tongue nicely.
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Re: James M. Webb & Special Forces Combatives
« Reply #50 on: February 10, 2010, 06:44:04 PM »

Wht's wrong with CMCISFCQC?

I think it rolls off the tongue nicely.

lol
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Re: James M. Webb & Special Forces Combatives
« Reply #51 on: March 23, 2010, 05:48:42 PM »

A company was selling all of these videos at:
http://www.iol.ie/~needful/videos.htm

Green Beret:Close Quarter Fighting Vol 1      Webb & Janich                     �34.99
Green Beret:Close Quarter Fighting Vol 2      Webb & Janich                �34.99
Green Beret:Sentry Neutralization               Webb & Janich                 �34.99
Green Beret:Workout                                Webb & Janich                  �34.99
Green Beret:Interview With Jim Webb          Webb & Janich                �34.99
Green Beret:Combat Vol 1                          Webb & Janich                �34.99
Green Beret:Combat Vol 2                          Webb & Janich                �34.99
Green Beret:Combat Vol 3                          Webb & Janich                �34.99
Green Beret:Combat Vol 4                          Webb & Janich                �34.99
                                                                                                  Set �299.99

I just don't remember that many Webb/Janich films? I don't think so. I think the company has wrongly listed Janich with Webb too many times there. I am not sure. Don't anyone quote me.

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                   I was curious about this since I'm a big fan of Janich's work,so I checked with Mr. Janich and He states that He only worked on the "Knife Fighting Combat Techniques" series which consisted of just 4 volumes.
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Re: James M. Webb & Special Forces Combatives
« Reply #52 on: March 23, 2010, 08:08:05 PM »

Yeah, thats what I think too.
Something ain't right with that list.
Like they pirated titles or something?

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Re: James M. Webb & Special Forces Combatives
« Reply #53 on: March 07, 2011, 10:21:40 AM »

This is last weekend in March from James Webb....


Mr. Hochheim,
 
I was informed you posted some information on me per your web site.  I reviewed it and it is inaccurate and has dis-information.  I am a Vietnam Veteran.  I was never assigned to SOG or any Special Forces unit in Thailand.  I worked the POW/MIA Issue for fourteen years.  I held the positions of investigative team commander, recovery element commander, special teams commander, ATFP officer, acting detachment commander, underwater team commander, troop commander, etc etc. 
 
I did make an interview DVD to explain what it was like working on the ground for the POW/MIA Issue.  I made a total of 60 DVD's and sold a few but gave the rest away for free to various associations and organizations.  I did not make any more.  I wrote a draft for a book on the issue but have yet to publish it.  I wrote articles on the Issue for a Veterans Magazine for free.  I wrote a booklet on the history of the POW/MIA Issue for those who may not be familiar with it and gave this away for free also.  I was invited to speak at a Families convention in Washington DC.  A family member sent me $3,000 to pay for my airplane ticket and such.  I was planning on attending but several days prior to my departure I was ill and hospitalized.  I sent my apologies and regrets to the Families.  I also returned to the family member the $3,000.  I never made any promise for money would investigate any family members case. 
 
I never tried to, as you say on your site, fleece or rip off anyone concerning the POW/MIA Issue.  The Issue is very important to me and I gave my all working it.  The fourteen years I worked the Issue was the most important and fullfilling of my life.
 
James Webb

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Re: James M. Webb & Special Forces Combatives
« Reply #54 on: March 07, 2011, 10:35:43 AM »

Gee, I wonder what he claimed his involvement with the special forces to be when he did his interview for his "green beret" video series.

At the very least titling his video "Green Beret" was misleading if he never completed the Special Forces Course and was never tabbed.

He is also avoiding questions by not coming here to post.

What a maroon!
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Re: James M. Webb & Special Forces Combatives
« Reply #55 on: March 07, 2011, 10:43:07 AM »

Yes, there are many issues to be covered.

Hock
And Jim Webb - "I" did not post these claims and "I did not say" on "my site" these claims. I do not have this information. Others posting here do. Just read these pages. But it would be impressive for you to join up here and confront the slew of inconsistencies you have brought upon yourself through the years.  
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Re: James M. Webb & Special Forces Combatives
« Reply #56 on: March 07, 2011, 06:29:09 PM »

 I wonder why Mr Webb did not mention his Special Forces Claims and his Special Forces Combatives Course ?
if you read the forum once to find the errors in the postings I assume you will read it again ,if so :

Mr Webb ,you claim to have never been in SOG,but were you a Tabbed member of Special Forces?
Did you attend and complete the SFQC and get awarded a Green Beret ?
Did you ever attend and graduate US Army Ranger School?

Funny all you people make claims and then use word games around the truth.
"I was never in SOG",lol and you were never a Ranger and Never a Green Beret.

Was your SF Combat Course authorized by the US ARMY,and was it approved for SF Use
throughout the Army SF Community ?
Or was it a course created at a Command you were stationed with and you thought it was a cool way to use a title you never earned to make money selling it to civilians ?

Mr Webb where does your knife combatives come from ?
Does not the majority of it come from Mr Janich ?

Why are you no longer listed on Mr Geoff "Tank" todd's site ?
Did you tell Mr Todd when he came to become an instructor in your SF combat course ,that the Course was made up and had no credibility in giving him rank in any real Special Forces H2H course.
He used that course of yours to base a lot of his claims upon.
Imagine finding out the course was total BS outside of your little group.

Mr Webb if all you had done was take a trip paid for by an MIA family member,I imagine that one incident would have been easily explained and not required the Special Forces members of the MIA recovery to launch an investigation into MULTIPLE CLAIMS and then post warnings for family members not to be involved with you.
Isn't that why you were fired from the POW recovery in 2003 ?

There are people who serve and served in SF who worked on MIA recovery with you who have said you made constant claim of being a member of SF and serving in Vietnam and a member of SOG,they are the first to lead an investigation into his military claims,then came the rip off of family members of MIA.
 
From POW network:
http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19672&page=2
 
http://powwarrior.wordpress.com/2007/12/09/powmia-insider-another-attempt-to-fleece-the-issue/
 
This guy later pulled a fast one at the Alliance Meetings last year, taking some money from Family Members to
 appear as a guest speaker at the meetings and then backed out 48 hours before, never returning the money - over $2500....
[signed  - a family member]
 
 
Is everyone lying about a one off mistake as you claim Mr Webb ?
I kind of doubt it.
 
Jim H

As a contractor now ,supposedly,do you claim Ranger ,Special Forces,Scuba,FreeFall and all the other BS schools you never attended on your Resume to them ?
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Re: James M. Webb & Special Forces Combatives
« Reply #57 on: March 08, 2011, 11:30:52 AM »

Mr Webb
What unit  were you assigned to when you won your Bronze Star in Vietnam ?
What month and year ?
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Re: James M. Webb & Special Forces Combatives
« Reply #58 on: April 04, 2011, 08:26:10 PM »

 I was informed you posted some information on me per your web site.  I reviewed it and it is inaccurate and has dis-information.  I am a Vietnam Veteran.  I was never assigned to SOG or any Special Forces unit in Thailand.  I worked the POW/MIA Issue for fourteen years.  I held the positions of investigative team commander, recovery element commander, special teams commander, ATFP officer, acting detachment commander, underwater team commander, troop commander, etc etc. 
 
I did make an interview DVD to explain what it was like working on the ground for the POW/MIA Issue.  I made a total of 60 DVD's and sold a few but gave the rest away for free to various associations and organizations.  I did not make any more.  I wrote a draft for a book on the issue but have yet to publish it.  I wrote articles on the Issue for a Veterans Magazine for free.  I wrote a booklet on the history of the POW/MIA Issue for those who may not be familiar with it and gave this away for free also.  I was invited to speak at a Families convention in Washington DC.  A family member sent me $3,000 to pay for my airplane ticket and such.  I was planning on attending but several days prior to my departure I was ill and hospitalized.  I sent my apologies and regrets.  I also returned to the family member the $3,000.  I never made any promise for money would investigate any family members case. 
 
I never tried to, as you say on your site, fleece or rip off anyone concerning the POW/MIA Issue.  The Issue is very important to me and I gave my all working it.  The fourteen years I worked the Issue was the most important and fullfilling of my life.
 
James Webb

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Re: James M. Webb & Special Forces Combatives
« Reply #59 on: April 04, 2011, 10:04:06 PM »

"I never tried to, as you say on your site, fleece or rip off anyone concerning the POW/MIA Issue."

"I" as in me...Hock...know nothing about this issue at all. Other people with information posted this on the talk forum. Not me. Let's see what they know and say. And of course, there are other questions others want to ask about many other things.

Hock
 
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