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Author Topic: Your pet peeve as an instructor!  (Read 1486 times)

mleone

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Your pet peeve as an instructor!
« on: March 27, 2005, 06:14:46 AM »

Your pet peeve as an instructor! what are they?
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Re: Your pet peeve as an instructor!
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2005, 08:20:43 AM »

Buffalo Nickels said he has so many pet peeves...he even has named his pet dog Peeves, so he can actually have a pet Peeves...

I have my own negative feelings about people who consistently talk with techno-jargon, folks purposely using terms that "sound too military and police." To me? They are wanna-be's" trying to impress you.  There are even people in various levels of the military and police who talk like this when teaching.  I ask you take a hard look at them. They may be fine? If so? They are rare.

I can honestly say that every hard-core, military and police vet I have ever met, (35 years worth) real deal killers and tough, ass-kickers never talk this techno-jargon crap. It is pretentious.

A little of it can go a long way. Too much? Not good.

"A stick in the eye, is a stick in the eye."

It is not-

"an insertion of an elongated object into the ocular cavity causing irepprable
level 3 damage to a homo sapien’s, vision facilities."

This kind of techno-blather is a litmus test for me. I have RARELY met a real-deal vet who talks like this.

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Or just, goodbye?
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Re: Your pet peeve as an instructor!
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2005, 10:23:36 AM »

Hey guys, I have not been teaching nearly as long as a lot of you (and no, that is not an age joke ;))  I guess my worst pet peeves are:
1. People who only want to show up to class 2x per month then wonder why they are not getting anywhere.

2.  People who when they do come to class gripe that we are going at it too hard (believe me when I say we are not, this being the days of liability and sue is a verb not a girls name).

3. People who like the IDEA training, but when it comes down to it, talk a big talk, but won't do the training.

4.  I have had this be a local phenomena here, I don't know how widespread it is (I am not meaning to offend any of our men and women in blue that this does not apply to), but police and detention officers who come into class, know they need this type of training, tell me they need it, then either won't put any effort into it, don't come half the time, not because of work, but because their favorite sports team is playing that night and they can't possibly miss the game (tape the game!).

I had a guy come to class for a while.  He ultimately told me he was having a hard time with how hard we went at things (push-ups, sit-ups, rounds on the focus gloves, straight forward stick and knife work, etc.).  I told him that this was pretty much the class, and it was how things went and that the conditioning was necessary.  He also did not like that our weapons work was straight forward and not flashy.  He ended up going to a school down the way who teaches MMA and the edged weapon equivalent to LIPMA.  This school has a rep for using their students and newbies as punching bags for the advanced students.  Now, everything that the head of this school says is a holy nugget, and he is proud to show off bruises and black eyes.  I don't understand.
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Re: Your pet peeve as an instructor!
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2005, 10:32:01 AM »

I haven't been an instructor for very long either, if I can even call myself that.  But, I do make the attempt to teach, so I guess that makes me a teacher. 
     Two things I can't stand.  Lateness, and a failure to think about the totality of circumstances.  It is probably the soldier in me, but I hate, hate, when people are late.  I think punctuality is very character revealing, and shows a lot about someone's self-discipline.  Totality of circumstances, well, I heard Hock talk about this on another post.  Basically, I will be practicing my butt-kicking with a friend, and another individual will walk up and say, "Why do all that?  I would just shoot them."   To which I reply, (thanks Hock)  "Well, where is your weapon now?"  or "You won't get it loaded before I stab you."  Generally speaking they have no reply, and the individual just walks away.  Those are the two things that bother me the most.


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Re: Your pet peeve as an instructor!
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2005, 12:31:41 PM »

I have been teaching over 10 years,
1 - I hate when students show up late, just disrespectful, or they have a habit of always showing up after the warm-up exercises.

2 - students who barely show up but want to test on a regular basis and bitch when i dont pass them

3 - people who use class as a social gathering or dating service. come to train, not to socialize when we are supposed to be working.

4 - People who commit and say i will show up to a seminar then dont

5 - Parents who dont dicipline thier kids at all and then bring them to me complaining there kids are out of hand and want me to fix them

Marc
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mleone

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Re: Your pet peeve as an instructor!
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2005, 06:21:19 AM »

I get driven nuts by wise asses.
Some who is out right obnoxious. Not respectful to their class mates.
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Re: Your pet peeve as an instructor!
« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2005, 10:16:23 AM »

5 - Parents who dont dicipline thier kids at all and then bring them to me complaining there kids are out of hand and want me to fix them

Marc

I threw a kid out of class one time. You can't believe how incredulous his mother was that I would do such a thing..."To her son!!". Funny thing is, she was behaving exactly like her son was. I guess apples don't fall too far. Never saw them again, especially when I told the mother that her tirade would have to wait until after class.
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Re: Your pet peeve as an instructor!
« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2005, 02:11:51 PM »

Students like me....... :-\
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mleone

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Re: Your pet peeve as an instructor!
« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2005, 09:10:01 PM »

Proffessor you seem more like the class clown.Those are the best to have in the class! :)
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Re: Your pet peeve as an instructor!
« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2005, 12:08:09 PM »

I hate the smart asses too, i have this kid 17yr old, who loves to try to counter every drill, so this forces me to show him how the drill is really done, i lay it on him hard at times, just the other day i smaked his knuckles hard with a stick cause he kept countering a disarm with another student and would be coopertive, i came over and said you are forgeting that this hits first, i smacked him, then disarmed him, hge shut up after that
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Re: Your pet peeve as an instructor!
« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2005, 01:41:02 PM »

"I hate the smart asses too, I have this kid 17yr old, who loves to try to counter every drill, so this forces me to show him how the drill is really done, I lay it on him hard at times, just the other day I smacked his knuckles hard with a stick cause he kept countering a disarm with another student. I came over and said you are forgeting that this hits first-- I smacked him--then disarmed him, huge 'shut-up' after that"

Hmmm, that reminds me of huge discussion we had on another thread....

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Re: Your pet peeve as an instructor!
« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2005, 08:17:28 AM »

All of the above plus the lazy person who thinks about doing martial arts and combatives but instead goes to the gym and runs then wonders why he or she get robbed and beat up.

The person I never met pisses me off!
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Re: Your pet peeve as an instructor!
« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2005, 09:30:20 AM »

I hate the guy who calls you, and wants to have a 20 minute conversation about what you do and martial arts in general. Then, after inviting them to come down...you never see or here from them again.

That's the main reason I won't have long coversations with prospective clients anymore. I say "Just come down and see. Then make a decision." I've even told people why I don't have long conversations over the phone...a few of those guys signed up. I think they liked the up front attitude I have.

Oh well! People like to talk about training...but don't like actually doing it.
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Re: Your pet peeve as an instructor!
« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2005, 05:01:01 PM »

All of the above plus the lazy person who thinks about doing martial arts and combatives but instead goes to the gym and runs then wonders why he or she get robbed and beat up.

The person I never met pisses me off!

I agree all the above, but gotta add the close minded people who won't try anything new because G.M. puff & stuff said they don't need anything other than what they have or he has shown them.... So therefore they will never learn anything else... What a boring life..

Like Mike Tyson said " everyone has a plan till they get hit in the mouth"

Keep up the hard training.

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Re: Your pet peeve as an instructor!
« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2005, 07:39:45 PM »

People who are with you for a while then leave and talk bad about you when you ask for tuition...
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folks who are a little on the heavy side who get offended when you suggest that they watch their weight...
and finally,
my lack of tact
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