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[Bryan]

Um, no.  Anyone can request records and get the truth.  In Guerra's case, ex-SEAL Steve Robinson helped with the investigation, as did the POW Network.  Neither of them will have anything to do with you now, of course.

But it is crazy for you to suggest that no veterans were involved in the investigation of Guerra.  In fact, I was guided entirely by their expertise and wisdom.  And it is even crazier to suggest that a civilian has no place calling a military faker on his fakery.

Ask Burkett, Robinson, or the Schantags what they think of non-veterans exposing fakers.  They do the real work.  You just tag along, pursuing petty vendettas under the guise of doing real work.

This is good for a laugh anyway. You misrepresented your own background to get people to trust you now many people are having to pay the price for that. You lied to Steve Robinson, You lied to POW Network, You lied to members of Bullshido, you lied and lied and lied. From the beginning you did not know what you were reading because its all over your head. Of course that has never stopped you from believing your a superhero instead of a loser.

In the case of Richard you decided he was guilty then piled on the bullshit. Then you sent a bunch of files to POW Network and they made the mistake of not fact checking your work. Then when I brought up issues with your investigation which they sited on the POW Network they chose to disregard my questions at that time.

I was just on the phone with POW Network a few days ago so as far as them having nothing to do with me that is just more lies. They are good people, they just got caught up in some lies being told by a liar. That liar being you, Chuck Hardin.


http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=97601

[Cy Q. Faunce]

I think you talked to Chuck, right?  They still aren't doing work with you.

Since you can point to no substantial errors in the Guerra investigation, and since veterans who are experts in military fakery reviewed and endorsed our evidence and conclusions, I guess that leaves a liar like you out in the cold.

[Bryan]

I think you talked to Chuck, right?  They still aren't doing work with you.

Since you can point to no substantial errors in the Guerra investigation, and since veterans who are experts in military fakery reviewed and endorsed our evidence and conclusions, I guess that leaves a liar like you out in the cold.

Out in the cold? Chuck Hardin is the only person calling me a liar, not anyone from POW Network. Chuck Hardin tried to get me listed on POW Network as a fraud and he could not do it so he just wrote up a bunch of nonsense then posted it up as a "Investigation" on Bullshido Dot Org. Now Bullshido is saying Chuck Hardin was banned for unethical behavior.

When Chuck Hardin suggested I was not an "Expert" in his investigation, Chuck got an email from POW Network then had to go back and edit his writing.

The point I was making about Richard Guerra is the man is a Honorably Discharged and possibly Disabled Vet who deserves a fair deal. The funny thing is at this point in time none of Chucks investigations are available online. The entire Bullshido Dot Org website is offline and has been for some time. There is some speculation they had to take down the site for legal reasons, ugh O, cant talk about that, Bullshido and Chuck Hardin are lawyered up.

[JimH]

My only interest is that it was posted on this forum,I read it,looked and found The POWNET section and posted it.
Bryan makes a good point,that there is NOTHING in the Newspapaer clips that QUOTE "",Mr Guerro claiming to be a Navy SEAL,it is  something which appears to be added by the reporter.

I also see Bryan's point that Steve the SEAL identifier,was operating on the point that Guerro claimed to be a SEAL,Steve adds his investigative results that make Mr Guerro look guilty,but if Guerro Never said he was a SEAL,the Investigation is mute.

So my interest is that Since I posted the POWNET findings,and now I see Bryan's point I tend to agree ,with the limited info available and with Bryan's point.

"Why did Mr Guerro not correct the error"
What would the newspaper print a retraction stating "in a previous article we said Mr Guerro was a SEAL and he is not "
Man the Papers do not even print retractions for Larger scale errors,I doubt they would correct that.
They have the name of the other Military member Mr Guerro was talking to,does he claim Guerro told him he,Guerro,was a NAVY SEAL ?

We see the reporters mistake that Mr Guerro said "SEAL BAG" when it was "SEA BAG".
Did the reporter correct that error ?
No

Two students say that they heard Mr Guerro say he was a SEAL.
Now ,from what I have read,Mr Guerro was teaching martial arts on the USS Jouett and everyone seems to know him for that,and it is possible he taught A Navy SEAL,or Many Navy SEALs,be they present and or former,perhaps that was his claim?
Two students saying an instructor said he was a SEAL,does not an imposter make.

Mr Guerro served 2 years in the Navy,not enough time to become a SEAL in the first place,no less fill the requirement of serving 24-54 months as a SEAL after training.

I do not have a dog in this fight,I am just conceeding that with the limited information,and my view of reading the post of 2006 on the USS Jouett site.
I could not see a Member of the USS Jouett,posting a "I was a SEAL Team 3 member who was sometimes on the USS Jouett,anyone remember me" type of post,especially if said writer was working as an Intelligence specialist on the ship and was not a Navy SEAL.
(something not right there)

Mr Guerro apparently was injured in an attack on the ship,which got him a Medical discharge from the Navy.

An Imposter makes a claim to prop themselves up for accolades  and or to make a financial gain from the claim,especially in the martial arts.
Mr Guerro does not appear to do either.

So I really have no interest,other than to agree with Bryan that there is NOT enough innformation AT THIS TIME on supposed claims by Mr Guerro saying he was a SEAL in Combat in Vietnam.

[Cy Q. Faunce]

Guerra had a great deal to gain from SF claims, in fact.  It's not a SEAL claim, but consider his advertisement for his Soryu Karate Federation:

guerra sensei is offering combat karate instruction to members of the navy seal teams and to other spec op groups. he taught commando personnel during the viet nam war. he was serving his country in n. and so. vietnam and was in a spec op unit . his skills are with the knive. ... guerra sensei looks calm and timid most of the time but rest assured he is always watching the small details. greg larson retired u.s navy spec ops captain u.s navy.

1.  Does this seem like a credible endorsement to you?

2.  Is it consistent with his record?

In any case, the Daily Texan informed me that no corrections to this article have ever been requested.  Contact them at managingeditor@dailytexanonline.com and see for yourself.

[JimH]

Loads of people claim to train SWAT,Spec Ops,Police,FBI .
That alone does not make him an imposter.
Mr Guerro apparently trained people on board the USS Jouett,maybe to include  Navy SEALs.
He is on the USS Jouett site saying how he was called sensei on the ship because he taught Martial Arts.
Did he actually teach SEALs ?
Who knows ?
But that does not make him an imposter,a Fake.

How much money has claiming to teach Spec Ops and Navy SEALs made him ?

I have never heard of him in Military circles as being a guy to go to for Spec Ops H2H.
(like Larkin,Peterson,Vunak)

Big Difference between claiming to be a SEAL in COMBAT in vietnam ,and a Martial arts instructor who says he teaches/taught SEALs and or Spec Ops.
All he needs is to have taught ONE SEAL ,while he was in Vietnam or onboard a ship and he taught the SEALs.
(Such is the way it is)

Bernard Kerik wrote in his book that he was stationed at Fort Bragg and taught H2H to Special Forces.
I met him  and asked him about this claim.
He said he taught Martial Arts at a club OFF BASE and some Special Forces guys attended.
(that is his qualifier,yet he is not a wanna be spec ops guy ,is he ?)

As far as corrections by papers:
Why would anyone bother ?
I know people who were/are in the Papers all the time,and many asked for corrections and got none,unless directed by a court.
The papers are full of stuff that is not true,or slightly incorrect yet No One that asks ,most times,gets one,if you do you could never find it,most do not ask.
Who knows Mr Guerro even read the clip ?

I could see asking for a correction if Mr Guerro gave a statement and the statement was  Quoted as him saying he was a SEAL,but the identifier of Mr Guerro and the Soldier from the 173rd Airborne were not quotes from the men,they were identifiers used by the reporter.

When the newspaper was called to see if Mr Guerro ever asked for a correction,was the paper asked if the Reporter or paper had the Quote of Mr Guerro saying he WAS a NAVY SEAL available ?

Again ,men like Wagner,Aizik,Nardia,Webb,Larkin,Peterson and some others have Written,and or Verbally allowed recordings of them claiming to be some form of Spec Ops,be it police or military or both.
Mr Guerro has written NOTHING nor is he DIRECTLY Quoted in writing connected to such a claim that I have seen.
Any written claim is made by someone else,not as quotes.
If he had written it I am sure it would have been posted.

Again,I have no dog in the fight.

To me the proof of saying the man claims to be a SEAL with Combat in Vietnam is not there.

[arnold]

I have met Kentbob, Superhero. Does that make me a trainer of Superheroes?