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Mercy Shooting Found Guilty
« on: April 01, 2005, 09:32:03 AM »

Convicted tank commander asks for leniency
By Melissa Eddy Associated Press

WIESBADEN, Germany — An Army captain, convicted Thursday in the shooting of a wounded Iraqi, asked for leniency in sentencing from the military jury and said he would continue serving if given the chance.
Capt. Rogelio “Roger” Maynulet, a Chicago native and the son of Cuban immigrants, stood at attention as the head of the jury, Lt. Col. Laurence Mixon, read the verdict of guilty of assault with the intent to commit voluntary manslaughter in the man’s death — reduced from assaul with intent to commit murder, which he originally faced.

Fighting to maintain his composure as he took the stand in the sentencing hearing after the verdict, Maynulet thanked the six-member jury, which could sentence him to up to 10 years in prison and kick him out of the Army.

“I respect your decision,” he said. “I think you did what you had to do.”

Asked if he would stay in the Army if given the chance, Maynulet replied confidently, “You bet.”

The decorated former tank company commander’s voice remained strong as he recounted the thoughts that had raced through his head before he aimed his gun at a wounded, unarmed Iraqi and shot him in the head on May 21, 2004.

“We’re trained, conditioned, to keep a distance,” said Maynulet, 30, looking down. “Maybe my mistake was that I projected myself into that Iraqi. I didn’t want to be in his state — if I were, I would hope that someone would put me out of my misery.”

Maynulet, 30, was leading his 1st Armored Division company on a mission near Kufa, south of Baghdad, when it was alerted that a car thought to be carrying what the Army called a “high-level target” was headed toward them.

No details of the mission have been released, but it has been widely reported the company was told radical cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, who led uprisings against U.S.-led forced in Iraq last year, was believed to be in the car with a driver.

The company chased the vehicle and fired at it. A passenger who was slightly wounded fled and was later apprehended. The driver was dragged from the car with serious head injuries and pronounced untreatable by Maynulet’s medic.

Maynulet, who has been lauded by his peers since the trial began Monday as a promising officer, outstanding leader and dedicated soldier, then shot the driver. The killing was filmed by a U.S. drone surveillance aircraft.

“I hope you can take into consideration my service, my attitude and my love for the Army before you make a decision,” Maynulet told the jury.

In closing arguments earlier Thursday, prosecutor Maj. John Rothwell said that Maynulet “played God” when he shot the driver, whom the U.S. military has only referred to as an “unidentified paramilitary member.” But relatives named him as Karim Hassan, 36, and said he worked for al-Sadr.

Rothwell argued that Maynulet, who was trained in first aid, should not have relied solely on the judgment of a medic who told Maynulet, “there’s nothing I can do.”

“Those five words were enough to make a life and death decision, and (Maynulet) chose to end a life,” Rothwell said. “This combat-trained life saver prescribed two bullets.”

Maynulet’s defense attorney, Capt. Will Helixon, argued that conflicting testimony from neurosurgeons about whether the Iraqi was still alive at the time of the shooting — combined with his client’s exemplary military record — required that he be acquitted.

Officers who worked with Maynulet in his Wiesbaden-based unit since his command was suspended on May 25 recounted in the sentencing hearing his high level of performance, despite facing a court-martial.

“I expected the minimum because of what he’s facing,” said Lt. Col. Paul Hurley. “But if I could have a shop full of guys like Roger, I’d have no problems.”

Maynulet’s father, Rogelio Maynulet, a physician who worked his way up from hospital janitor to director, also took the stand. He told of his son’s unfaltering devotion to the Army.

“He said he loved to serve his country. He always told me that he was going to make a difference,” the elder Maynulet said.

The jury is expected to deliver a sentence Friday.

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Re: Mercy Shooting Found Guilty
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2005, 10:38:57 AM »

The Captain should have let the driver bleed to death.
Putting the driver out of his misery is the problem(what a joke)
They did not grant the Capt a medivac and the capts patrol was engaged in another firefight.
Should he have sat and held the drivers hand until he passed.(Please)

I am sure the autopsy would have determined how bad the injuries were prior to shooting the driver in the head,if the injuries were beyond the capabilities of the medic then the Capt should be justified.

Had I been the Captain I would have learned how to say "please shoot me" in Iraqi and I would have said this was what the driver kept saying ,over and over.

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Re: Mercy Shooting Found Guilty
« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2005, 11:22:05 AM »

I'm sure the Army's efforts to increase enlisting numbers won't be affected by incidents such as this. (sarcasm)

I think the problem lies in the fact that there was no feeding tube for Capt. Maynulet to remove. Maybe feeding tubes should be standard issue, then there will be no more schizm towards killing the enemy.

Winning hearts and minds  ;D
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Re: Mercy Shooting Found Guilty
« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2005, 01:57:25 PM »


I think the problem lies in the fact that there was no feeding tube for Capt. Maynulet to remove. Maybe feeding tubes should be standard issue, then there will be no more schizm towards killing the enemy.

Winning hearts and minds  ;D



Now that's funny.....    ;D       
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Re: Mercy Shooting Found Guilty
« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2005, 03:35:21 PM »

In a sick, twisted sense, the "feeding tube" comment is pretty funny.

Seriously, they should of let him bleed to death. I have read accounts of mercy shootings of both friendly and enemy troops, but my recollection of those (and I can't remember where, or what the liklihood of accuracy of the account was) was that things were a lot different back in WW2 et al.

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Re: Mercy Shooting Found Guilty
« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2005, 06:46:50 PM »

In a sick, twisted sense, the "feeding tube" comment is pretty funny.

Seriously, they should of let him bleed to death. I have read accounts of mercy shootings of both friendly and enemy troops, but my recollection of those (and I can't remember where, or what the liklihood of accuracy of the account was) was that things were a lot different back in WW2 et al.

Dan

I try.  ;D

I would have let that guy bleed out, also! I mean...minutes prior he was trying to kill you, right?
Was the mercy killing professional courtesy between two soldiers?
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Re: Mercy Shooting Found Guilty
« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2005, 09:27:21 PM »

That was my recollection. Of course, going around after the fighting is over to all the dead and dying enemy and skewering them with a bayonet or putting an additional round into them for insurance is well documented in military history....

Dan
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Re: Mercy Shooting Found Guilty
« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2005, 11:05:12 PM »

The probable reality of the situation is that some ranking intelligence officers wished they had gotten their hands on the driver as he was the regular driver for Al Sader and they wanted to turn him or get some Humint.
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The drone showed two shots into the driver who appeared to be waving his right arm in an attempt to prevent being shot.
(they have pictures and film of everything going on in this conflict)

The testimony of the medic shows the Medic screwed up big time in that he failed to even do a rapid assesmnet check of  the victim and he gave false information on the drivers condition to the Capt.

If the Captain was given false information on the condition of the driver then that is another reason he should walk.
Then again.
Since the Major combat operations were declared over the troops are now required to deal with levels of force (as civilians and police are at home) and once the  opponent ,target,enemy is down or unable to fight or continue,if they are alive, they are to be treated as POWs and given full benefits of compassionate treatment.

This is the dilemma.

Troops trained for combat who are engaged in combat and then must adopt a level of force rule of engagement and suddenly go from 100% switched on to 25% switched on and showing compassion to an enemy.

This dual role,at minimum,is hard to adapt as they are combat troops not Police.

The higher ups want,Fighters,police,compassionate Coalition members,teachers,candy givers and lovers of mankind all rolled into one little warrior package with a switch to select mode when appropriate.
(sorry No Can Do)
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