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« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2009, 10:53:50 PM »

One does not have to experience something to become an expert on it,just look at all the books out there ,lol,all research and opinion,not many first hand accounts.

I agree, I don't have to touch a hot stove to know that it'll hurt. I don't think I was clear in my previous post, too darn tired. What I meant was how they write about it without experience. It's almost like they are selling the experience without ever having the experience. My weekly training partners are a former CHiP, a retired SF guy, a local cop, and a few younger guys who like to train so we have the first hand violence thing down pretty good. In the past I've trained with some other guys who have also BTDT, and in all that time of working out with these guys I haven't heard something like this...
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I like to look at it from the other side -- the blood bucket is half full, and I'm going to use him to fill it the rest of the way up.

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A lot of the language I see floating around when people talk "reality self-defense" is the language not of killers, but of people trying to justify that role, to feel better about it. Trying on the mantle of the killer, finding it distasteful, and then looking for logical constructs to make it fit better, to give yourself sufficient reason to try it on in the first place.

Maybe the guys I know who have multiple kills turned tree-hugger and stopped talking that way, maybe I'm turning into a hippie, again, and just find it distasteful, but to me it's just odd to see people talking that way.

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« Reply #16 on: March 04, 2009, 03:37:15 AM »

Agree with all these points here. How about when TRS et al ads their newest bad-ass in a martial arts magazine who has "been in over 600 street-fights". I can list off many reasons why you would'nt want to train with someone claiming that. But the main one that comes to my mind is ..even if he DID get into that many fights; what you think they ALL just came to him? Are we talkin about a guy who regularly finds 27 ninjas waiting for him when he heads for the bathroom to take a shower? Does'nt that mean since his college days, his summer-job boss would have tried to kill him? Naw, means he would have gone looking for fights, which means he more than likely started most of them which means he can't AVOID them. And he wants to teach others how to keep themselves and family safe? Kind of like a fire-fighter who is an arsonist.

Oh and also it's total BS, even 200. How about a well-trained guy who has been in a mere 20 fights, but paid attention to all of them and learned from many of his mistakes?
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« Reply #17 on: March 04, 2009, 02:55:17 PM »

Violence does not have to be experienced to be to be a viable option.

Everyone has the ability to be violent,look at the news and see the children able to kill and then admit it without remorse.
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The house wife who is attacked in her home and finds a way to get a knife and stabs the attacker to death.

Violence is a mindset that can be acted upon or not.
Too many people do not flip the switch to go to violence in a bad situation and they pay the price,with injury or death.
Then you have those who are easy to flip the switch to Violence and they fly into conflict because someone looked at them,these people end up with a lot of fights and find themselves in trouble down the road,either jail,or retaliation which results in their death.

For TFT,I think this is why Larkin is the Figure Head,his past training experiences and the belief by many that he was a SEAL,even though he has changed that story,lend themselves to the illusion that he has a background in Violence and lend well to his and these guys selling their product.
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