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[Professor]

This topic was a side topic in the gun forum by Bujinkandas, however, it will serve as a very good stand-alone topic for the military forum.  I've reposted the response and question:

"As for the M-16, I carried and trained with it some and I liked it, but since I was a protective service agent I only carried an MP5 or Uzi for operational purposes (depending on the country).  I know that in training the M016 was very accurate, but others tell me they like the punch and accuracy of the M-14 better.  Hmmm, with all the mordern technology we have you would think we would be operating with a more advnaced weapon system.

Hey guys, do any of you carry knives operationally, and if so what kind.  Also, what type of training did the military give you because I have been in the Navy, Air Force, and Army and never recieved any type of kinfe orientation."

[JimH]

i would agree on the point of the M14 being a better weapon with more fire power than the M16.
The M14 was alot heavier and was a better distance weapon than the M16.

The M16 was lighter and the 5.56 round caused more damage.

I preferred the AK as that weapon can be used in all conditions.
My second choice weapon would be the old British SLR/FN FAL.
Third choice would be the M14.
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As Far as Knife training in the military the training was minimal or not at all in some units.
(as is H2H)

The Marine Corps trained the use of the Bayonet attached to the weapon and in hand.
Both instructions were similar in that the instruction was similar.
Slash and thrust,some vital points and that was the full extent.

Special Forces was a little better ,again training was minimal.
You learned lead hand and rear hand, slashes and thrust,vital points over just stick it anywhere, and rear attacks/sentry removal.
(very basic,I doubt if the total time on H2H ,improvised stick and knife/Bayonet were over a few hours total,that is phase training and team training total over  7 years)

I carried a K Bar or AF survival knife taped facing down on my web gear harness,left side.

I had tried the Sykes Fairbairn Commando knife but the weapon was too thin for practical use, outside of on a person.
(Being that use on people was minimal I went with practical use first)

I also carried a folder , the selection back then was not like today.
The folder was for use if The web gear and I got seperated somehow and for cutting away parachute lines in case of getting tangled in lines in air or in the water, and for survival.

I also wore a small double edge on my trouser belt.

[Kentbob]

    Thus far, the Army has given me no knife training, no defense against a knife, no offensive use, unless you count the bayonet training I did in basic training.  Stab series, that sort of thing.  I don't count that.  As for what I carry, I carry a TOPS Knives Swat Spike on my Interceptor Body Armor.  It is simple to sharpen, made out of 1095 carbon steel.  It is a one piece, with two linen micarta scales for handles, and it has a chisel butt end, which I can use for prying stuff open.  The knife itself is pretty thick, so I can pry stuff open with it.  I have used it to cut various items, no people, mostly just MRE's.  But, it is always available if I need it, in a spot that I can access with either hand.  All in all, I like it a lot. 
     When I am out on an extended operation, where I expect to run into some serious trouble, I also carry a Cold Steel OSS on my right leg.  I do not feel that the OSS is quite as durable, but it sharpens up to a shaving sharp edge easier, and it had greater reach, plus being twin edged makes it the ideal "go to" knife for me, before my swat spike.  Also, on extended operations, I like to have two knifes, just in case...
Kent