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Heath

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Re: conditioning & fitness training
« Reply #60 on: October 29, 2004, 08:05:07 AM »

Devil Dog...Congratulations huevon (the nickname does not suit you, "lazy", right?).  Pyramids have worked great for me recently.

Huevon doesnt mean lazy...that is Flojo...Pronounced flo-ho but lazy isnt what huevon means...but its from south america..

my co-worker and i are desk monkeys for the most part...so we sit and crush while on the computers...i am starting to see a little change after a week. i have to go to CQC now...ill post more later  ;D
« Last Edit: October 30, 2004, 05:20:16 AM by huevon »
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Big Chief

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Re: conditioning & fitness training
« Reply #61 on: November 04, 2004, 05:09:41 AM »

Huevon means "Courage" or "Big Nuts" or something close to that, right?     ;D

Thanks for the props DD!  I hear SCUBA is one bad-ass school!  Nice work.

As the Japanese say "The way is through practice/training."

I do not think there is any superior conditioning program/martial art, only superior men.  You got to put in the roadwork if you are going to make the grade.  You know what I am talking about, DD.

One thing I have been doing for my grip lately is I do 20-30 minutes on the rower hardcore and pre-burn my grip and then go to the climbing gym and hang on for dear life to the rock wall for an hour!   :o  That.... and cold filtered curls!   ;D

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devil dog

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Re: conditioning & fitness training
« Reply #62 on: November 04, 2004, 10:29:41 PM »

Hey Chief,

Scuba PT was all day long, mostly push-ups and flutter kicks with twin 80's and gear, pool skills (weighted belt swim, ditch-n-dawn,etc).  However, it was the cohesion that develops, even interservice rivalry goes out the window.  During Ranger school I cut my leg on some wire the last week before graduation, although I had already finished my patrols for the course you still have a load to carry for the rest of the squad.  My Ranger buddy ( a Scout with the 101st) said; " I'll carry you on my back if I have to, but you're finishing.", he TOOK a portion of my already bulging ruck and helped me through the course. I have always looked to return the favor everywhere I go.  Chuck had a lot to lose by helping me, him not getting a Ranger tab would have affected his Army carreer.  As a Marine all I got was a license plate, a T-shirt, and the satisfaction.

Anyway, I like Jowett's "Unrevealed secrets of Man", Kettlebells, Clubbells, and Matt Fureys' "Royal Court".  Surely you read also about the Captains of Crush.  My endurance and leg strength from Hindu Squats was easily documented ( from 25 to 125 squats in two months time).  That is what I truly consider to be the bare minimum fitness level for a person who EXPECTS a confrontation.

Yours in manly excellence,

Enrique
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solarman

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Re: conditioning & fitness training
« Reply #63 on: November 09, 2004, 01:41:40 AM »



Your shoulder pain is the result of poor ukemi.  If it hurts every few minutes into your training, then you need to fine-tune your ukemi.  Ukemi is for hitting the ground WITHOUT injury.




Hey Chief (or should I say "How !")  ;)

This ukemi sounds interesting, can you tell me some more please ?


cheers, satin.  :)
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Heath

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Re: conditioning & fitness training
« Reply #64 on: November 13, 2004, 06:13:09 AM »

Huevon means "Courage" or "Big Nuts" or something close to that, right?     ;D

No.. big nuts ...that is what it means in columbia and central america region..but getting closer..it means many different things in many countries.. :D this contest is fun...weeee hoooo

UPDATE on capt. of crush.

  We, several guys from my office, are now holding contests and one of them is to see who can hold a penny the longest between the grips... i have won left handed once and right handed once..
the longest is 36 seconds.. we are planning to set a goal of getting #1 after January..i will post up at that time. i have also started other exercises for the grip.

 After two weeks of grip exercises ( and i dont lift weights ) my forearms are solid...its very interesting to say the least..i just hope i dont look like popeye later...hahaha
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Big Chief

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Re: conditioning & fitness training
« Reply #65 on: November 17, 2004, 06:03:26 AM »

Hey DD,

Lighter ruck or not, finishing while wounded is a sign of true character.  You Ranger buddy and you are refelctions of each other.  My hat is off to you both.  Then again you did say you were a jarhead, didn't you....  :P ;D

Satin,

Ukemi is a Japanese term used in Ninjutsu, Aikido, Judo, and Jujutsu for methods of rolling and falling.  If you experience pain every time you get slammed to the mat.... learn to fall better.  Most Japanese arts teach ukemi first because if your ukemi sucks, then when you get REEEEEEEEEAAAAALLY slammed by some 87lb., 70 year old Japanese guy, you will only feel like you are dieing and not really die.
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Big Chief

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Re: conditioning & fitness training
« Reply #66 on: November 17, 2004, 10:36:23 PM »

Part II:

Getting back on topic.... I agree with DD.  Running is a critical skill for soldiering, street survival, weight control, general health & fitness.  Check out "Galloway's Book on Running" - the seminal work on running.  In the movie "Miracle" Kurt Russell keeps saying "The legs feed the wolf!"  True.  On the field of battle are you a hunter or an immobile lump of muscle tissue waiting to get hit?

Beyond that.... strength is always beneficial, but it is endurance that gets the mission done.  Big guys like Schwarzenaeger, Stallone, the Rock, etc. would get crushed on a 12 mile ruck march.  What happens if they had to fight at the end?  The fight wouldn't happen because they would be sucking wind at mile 4.

You want to be a lean, mean, fighting machine = skill development and cardio until it kills you.

I am a big guy: 6 foot, 220lb. and its harder to do pull ups than some 187lb. guy (DD) ;), but a 220lb guy hauling a 75lb ruck has it a little easier.

Bottom line, Satin:  There's tons of BS out there and most of it is geared for bodybuilders (appearance-based) or gimmicks (money making schemes).  Go with what has proven itself time after time.  The basics: powerlifting, running, swimming, jump rope, biking, push ups/sit ups/ pull ups.  Strong = Strong  whether its kettlebells or hay bales.

Personally, as I said before, I like Stew Smith's stuff (I need it for my job) and I like Ironmind.com (no BS website).

My $0.02
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