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Author Topic: A Professor's Opinion: Guns on Campus  (Read 3312 times)


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A Professor's Opinion: Guns on Campus
« on: February 22, 2011, 10:05:43 AM »

My department chair asked our opinion on the proposal before the Texas legislature for concealed carry on campuses.  Here was my response.  This is the first time I have been asked my political opinion.  Thought I would share with you:

The question:


Attention has been called to a proposal to allow guns on Texas campuses.  See here:
I have been asked if there are strong feelings in the department about this matter.   If so, please let me know.

My response:

[department chair and other department faculty],

This is the first time I have been asked about my political opinion, as a faculty member, so I will certainly try to answer your question:

I strongly support this proposal.   Here's my reasoning: 

This law proposal only provides provision for licensed concealed carry holder to carry - not everyone. has long been a proponent of this proposal.  Here's an appropriate quote from their site, with references:

States that keep statistics on crimes committed by concealed handgun license holders invariably find that licensees are significantly less likely than unlicensed residents to commit violent crimes.  In Texas, for example, the rate of concealed carry is about 1.6% (as of December 31, 2009).  Approximately one Texan out of every 62 is licensed to carry a concealed handgun.  Yet, according to official statistics, Texas concealed handgun license holders are five and a half times less likely than members of Texas's general population to commit manslaughter and four times less likely to commit murder.  Despite Texas's high rate of concealed carry, a person in Texas is more than 20 times as likely to be struck  by lightning as to be murdered or negligently killed by a concealed handgun license holder.  (Texas Department of Public Safety, five-year average of statistics on criminal convictions of CHL holders, 2002-2006; U.S. Census Bureau, yearly estimates of Texas Population, 2002-2006; U.S. National Weather Service, "Medical Aspects of Lightning," Dr. Marry Ann Cooper)

More here:

The above link has a huge amount of information that may add a point of view not found in the Huffington Report.

Why my strong support?

Texas has a rigorous testing system for concealed carry licensing.  Some of these licensees are highly skilled and trained shooter capable of protecting the lives of fellow citizens.   Tragedies at campuses around our country could have just have easily happened on our campus, classrooms, conference rooms, and offices.  A gun free zone does not keep a shooter focused on ending lives from coming on campus - we have many cases around the nation at this point to validate this statement.   At this moment in time, our Texas laws prevent legally licensed citizens from protecting themselves and others on our campuses.   

Here are campus shooting SINCE Virginia Tech:

October 2010 – Elizabeth City, North Carolina – A student fatally shot another student in the victim’s dorm room at Mid-Atlantic University. The University said the shooting stemmed from a conflict between them

September 2010 – Austin, Texas – A 19-year-old student fatally shot himself in the main library at the University of Texas with an AK-47 assault rifle.

March 2010 – Columbus, Ohio – A disgruntled Ohio State University maintenance employee, who had recently been fired, opened fire in a campus facilities building, killing a manager and wounding another co-worker before he turned the gun on himself.

February 2010 – DeKalb, Illinois – One student was injured and another placed into police custody after a shooting on the campus of Northern Illinois University.

February 2010 – Huntsville, Alabama – A professor opened fire 50 minutes into at a Biological Sciences Department faculty meeting at the University of Alabama, killing three colleagues and wounding three others December 2009 – Woodbridge, Virginia — A 20-year-old student fired twice at his maths professor during class at Northern Virginia Community College. The shooter then put his gun down, left the classroom and was arrested.

September 2009 — Atlanta, Georgia – A gun was fired several times during a fight on the campus of Clark Atlanta University, fatally injuring a 19-year-old student from a neighbouring college who was walking by.

September 2009 – San Bruno, California – One person was shot during a fight in a parking lot at Skyline College.

August 2009 – Langston, Oklahoma – Four people were shot in a car park at Langston University.

July 2009 – Houston, Texas – Six people, including one student, were shot in a drive-by shooting at a community rally on the campus of Texas Southern University.

May 2009 – Cambridge, Massachusetts – A 21-year-old man died after being shot at a Harvard University dormitory during an attempted drug robbery.

April 2009 – Hampton, Virginia – An 18-year-old former student followed a pizza deliveryman into his old dormitory, and shot the deliveryman, a dorm monitor, and himself at Hampton University.

April 2009 – Dearborn, Michigan – A man shot and killed a female classmate and then himself at MacKenzie Fine Arts Center on the campus of Henry Ford Community College.

November 2008 – Savannah, Georgia – A 19-year-old student shot a fellow student twice after the two argued at Savannah State University October 2008 – Conway, Arkansas – Several men in a car drove up to a dormitory at the University of Central Arkansas and opened fire, killing two students and injuring a third person.

October 2008 – San Antonio, Texas – A librarian shot and killed a fellow librarian at Northeast Lakeview Community College library, where the two men worked.

July 2008 – Phoenix, Arizona – A former student shot three people in a computer lab at South Mountain Community College.

April 2008 – Boca Raton, Florida – During a fight at a campus party at Florida Atlantic University, a man fired two shots in a crowded room, one grazing the ear of a 21-year-old college student.

February 2008 – Little Rock, Arkansas – A student was shot on the campus of the University of Arkansas.

February 2008 – Jonesboro, Arkansas – A student was injured when a bullet ricocheted off a building and hit him in the leg on the campus of Arkansas State University.

February 2008 – DeKalb, Illinois – A former graduate student armed with several guns entered a lecture hall at Northern Illinois University and began shooting. He killed five students and wounded 16 before killing himself.

September 2007 – Dover, Delaware – A freshman student at Delaware State University shot and wounded two other students at a campus dining hall.

August 2007 – Newark, New Jersey – Three Delaware State University students were shot and killed in “execution style” by a 28-year-old and two 15-year-old boys. A fourth student was shot and stabbed.

April 2007 – Blacksburg, Virginia – A student killed 32 students and faculty, and wounded 15 more at Virginia Tech. He was armed with a Glock model 19 handgun and a Walther P22 handgun.

Some notable campus shootings prior to VT:

Sept. 2, 2006 – Douglas W. Pennington, 49, kills himself and his two sons, Logan P. Pennington, 26, and Benjamin M. Pennington, 24, during a visit to the campus of Shepherd University in Shepherdstown, W.Va.

Jan. 16, 2002 – Graduate student Peter Odighizuwa, 42, recently dismissed from Virginia's Appalachian School of Law, returns to campus and kills the dean, a professor and a student before being tackled by students. The attack also wounds three female students.

Oct. 28, 2002 – Failing University of Arizona Nursing College student and Gulf War veteran Robert Flores, 40, walks into an instructor's office and fatally shoots her. A few minutes later, armed with five guns, he enters one of his nursing classrooms and kills two more of his instructors before fatally shooting himself.

Aug. 28, 2000 – James Easton Kelly, 36, a University of Arkansas graduate student recently dropped from a doctoral program after a decade of study and John Locke, 67, the English professor overseeing his coursework, are shot to death in an apparent murder-suicide.

Aug. 15, 1996 – Frederick Martin Davidson, 36, a graduate engineering student at San Diego State, is defending his thesis before a faculty committee when he pulls out a handgun and kills three professors.

The above have happened since I became a faculty member in 1994.    The track record is tragic and this proposal offers a solution in Texas that has already been implemented in Utah. 

Yes, I support this proposal.   
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Re: A Professor's Opinion: Guns on Campus
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2011, 08:04:14 PM »

February, 2011, there was a shooting at Northern Michigan University, in the U.P.  Don't know the details, just know a couple people who go to school there.

Well written and articulated response, Prof.  Thanks for sharing this with us.

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Re: A Professor's Opinion: Guns on Campus
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2011, 08:22:09 PM »

This is not the Wild West! You will turn this campus into a warzone!


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Re: A Professor's Opinion: Guns on Campus
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2011, 05:00:53 AM »

Yes, but just think of all the weenies and liberals that may get caught in the crossfire!
I leave you idiots alone for 5 minutes and I come back and you're all dancing around like a bunch of Kansas City faggots
you're all a bunch of slack jawed faggots around here, this stuff will make you a sexual tyrannosaurus, just like me!