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Author Topic: Kitchen knives in the UK  (Read 17056 times)

Bri Thai

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Re: Kitchen knives in the UK
« Reply #60 on: June 13, 2005, 05:39:21 PM »

Hi Andy.  Thats a pretty cool site of yours.  I saw it on the GT forum link.  Seems like a thoroughly professional organisation.  Welcome to the forum.

MP's?  Sure they take peoples opinion into account.  If they're large scale vote winning opinions they'll get through almost every time.  But the right to carry weapons?  Have you ever seen a large scale movement in the UK lobbying for that? 
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Re: Kitchen knives in the UK
« Reply #61 on: June 17, 2005, 03:52:00 PM »

Wow, I wish I would have seen some of this discussion a little sooner. Serves me right for being busy.And now, on with the show.
The major difference here in the US in the majority of places, cities, states, etc., is that I have the right to defend myself, my family and my property against any individual that I deem as a threat.
What was one of the first things Hitler did when he came to power,? ban guns for the general population. Also let us look back into history, that after WWI, many nations, Britian and the US included, went to sleep and let the dark side of the world prepare itself for the form of horrors that would become WWII.
Because the US did not have the idiotic gun laws that existed in Britian before WWII, and had millions of people who belonged to the NRA and had to hunt for the food they ate and their very existence, we were able to basically save the rest of the world from the darkness that would of surely overtaken it.
Other countries during WWII did not provide the US with the weapons of war, WE PROVIDED THEM, and the people that knew how to use them.
This is not to say that there were not Britions who were willing to fight, the problem was they did not have the resources due to the British Govt. imposing stupid and stringent laws upon the people, and most importantly, not listening to the largest figure in the last century, Winston Churchill. He called the situation in the world exactly as it was but it just seems there is and was a trait among many of your countrymen to want to impose stupid, arcane and idiotic restrictions, while hoping that the problem will just go away. As history showed, the problem did not go away.
I thank God everyday that I had the fortune of being born here in the US to parents, grandparents, and other relatives who taught me that it is ok to stand up for your rights and defend yourself, to teach me how to use a gun safely, to treat people with respect, and to teach me to be able to make decisions for myself, wether right or wrong.
I have traveled all over the world and where you see restrictions in basic freedoms, you see oppression.
It amazed me recently that the French actually voted down the idea of a European Union, when they are, in my humble opinion, collectively the worst bunch of suck ups the world has produced in recent memory.
 The influx of the Islamic religion in Europe is leading to the moral desintegration of society in general. They preach a religion of peace, but I have yet to see it, even with my glasses on.
In other words, hasta la vista, ragheads. You don't like it here, go back to your sand, camels and general oppression. This may be a pigheaded response to them, but they leave their country and come over here, suck up our programs and resources, and bitch about the US.
Sorry, there was a ladder on my soapbox.
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Bri Thai

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Re: Kitchen knives in the UK
« Reply #62 on: June 18, 2005, 04:09:55 AM »

There was also a hole in it.

Gun laws in the UK had nothing whatsoever to do with Hitler's rise to power.  What next?  "It rained today because the UK have gun laws?"  Churchill?  Yup, he saw the threat and acknowledged it before most others.  Us Brits followed quickly behind him, followed by your good freedom loving gun carrying selves.... with a massive time delay. 

Hey!  No offence!  It was politics!  It was a conlfict in Europe, why should the US have got directly involved?  Until, that is, they were attacked themselves and caught napping.  The right to bear arms didn't prevent the complacency and poor leadership of some of your military brass at Pearl Harbour.

As for the French I think a few million of them might be offended at being called "suck ups".

Personally  have no problem with the 2nd Ammendment.  But it is a little weak to pick out all the "good" things in the US and put it down to the 2nd, whilst claiming all the bad things in other countries is because of the lack of it.
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Re: Kitchen knives in the UK
« Reply #63 on: August 05, 2005, 02:07:50 PM »

The hole in my soap box is due to having to stand onit so often because I have to get above the contiued crap that the typical liberal mind dishes out. Let's see, sleeping, sneak attack, war actually declared. And who bailed out the US. Answer, nobody. The freighters were going in one direction, east to the UK, I can't recall Britian sending anything over here. This is no hit to the people that served in the British Military during WW2. They were heroes all. But to make any comparison between the readiness of the US and the British is totally inane. Britian did come up with on e helll of a motor ( Rolls Royce Merlin ) that we put into a fighter that was developed in 90 days, the p 51 Mustang. The best single seat fighter of the war.
As for the French not liking the word "suck ups", I personally don't care. Name anything worth while that the French have done in the last 50 years. Still don't care.
i do not put everything that is good about the US and attach it to the second amendment, nor do I take everything that is bad and attach it to the UK. I love Scotland! But in your one words you stated that the British could not use any type of weapon to defend themselves. I have seen many people be extremely creative in the use of normal everyday things and turn them into lethal waepons. But according to your numerous posts, you would not be able to do this do to the laws in the UK.
Hmmm, Me thinks I'll stay here. Good thing I had a tall ladder.
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Re: Kitchen knives in the UK
« Reply #64 on: August 05, 2005, 02:12:22 PM »

As for the recent attacks in your country, I'm sorry for the loss of life, but all i can say is " welcome to the party, pal". Seems the powers that be in the UK want to throw out a whole buch of rag headed Islamic groups. You people should thank God for Tony Blair that he had the balls to even suggest this. I wish they would do that here. Only time will tell
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Bri Thai

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Re: Kitchen knives in the UK
« Reply #65 on: August 05, 2005, 02:49:29 PM »

Didn't the French send troops into the war torn (yet oil free) Sudan region, whilst the UN sat about playing with itself? 

Personally I try to keep racism out of my toolbox when debating.  I do not mean to call you a racist, and do acknowledge that people throw the accusation around too freely.  But all this talk of different Nationalities and "Rag heads" does you no favours my friend.
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Re: Kitchen knives in the UK
« Reply #66 on: August 05, 2005, 09:58:54 PM »

Actually Arnold mate, The French have done that numerous times...another one the Legion was in was Kolweizi rescuing European citizens from the Simbas that were raping pillaging and plundering.  While the US and the UN sat round on their arses pontificating the Legion went in within 24 hours (earning itself the distinction of the best anti-terrorist force in the world later - by the UN if you can believe the gall of those pricks - due to its ability to put such a raid together in only 24 hours) and whacked all the Simbas and saved the day.

I wish people would stop confusing the French with French politicians.  You didn't all share Bill Clintons views on gays in the military and not responding to Al Quaeda when he should have...no doubt you'd have been pissed if on vacation in Scotland at the time someone had tried to lay Sleazy Bill's policies at your feet like they were yours.  What about sleazy bill's decision to pull out of Somalia which had the Arabs around the world laughing at Americans because they thought they were chickenshit...was that a decision of the military at the time or the politicians back home?  Don't confuse the two mate...totally different animals.

I have mates in the Legion chomping at the bit to go kick some arse who are totally frustrated by their politicians and their political decisions.

Here's some photos of the Kolweizi op...www.angelfire.com/ ok/TVDhome/legkolwfr.html
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Re: Kitchen knives in the UK
« Reply #67 on: August 08, 2005, 07:25:12 AM »

the french, they know that they are suckups, ive even heard them called cheese eating surrender monkeys.  i think homer simpson said that.
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Re: Kitchen knives in the UK
« Reply #68 on: August 08, 2005, 07:47:38 AM »

Seriously though,  Ninor is right to not confuse politics and abiliy.
As for the whole argument of to carry or not, I had the same discussion in Ireland, and it is exactly the same as this thread.  Yet, Crime continues to rise, people feel helpless, police forces are stretched thin, politicians go for the money, criminals have a ball, and solid law abiding citizens get forked.  Interestingly, training while  in Ireland brought out that the influx of S. African assylum seeking farmers forced to go back to the country of their origin, even if the family has been in Africa since the 1800s have brought back a degree of self defense attitude, and they will continue to resist socialist/fascist govt tendencies to outlaw the tools of defense.  These guys who lived a relatively "free" exsistance in Africa are forced to live under the so called democratic systems enforced today.  They can describe freedom more clearly then anyone ive ever met.  Democracy is definately not freedom, and in no shape or form can ever achieve it.  the Republic of the USA was never intended to be a democracy.  NEVER.  but since it has mutated to become so, the outcome of democracy is finally totalitarianism, and that means disarmament, and "equality" for everyone for your own good.  So, my opinion.....carry if you can,.  I remember being in Australia the year of 2001.  We decided to go eat at a restaraunt at the top of a tower.  as we approached the elevator, security was there with the majic wand.  the Look on G. Zwiers face said it all.  basically, G, I hope you didnt pack your folder with you, or you are going to jail today.  I faked a ohshit look on my face, and proceeded forward.  that day folks, I left the old benchmade in the hotel room.  So, saved from the "goodguys" just doing their job, but also saved everyone i was with from a painful experience.  Lesson, use your head, be safe,...anyways, it made for a good story, and the look on Glenns face was priceless.
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Re: Kitchen knives in the UK
« Reply #69 on: September 20, 2005, 02:44:31 PM »

the Sudan is not oil free, and the term was"rag headed" not rag heads. As in pin headed, knot headed, bull headed, pick any head you want. And if being labled a racisit is my handle for not wanting to deal with militant Islamic groups, then so be it.
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Re: Kitchen knives in the UK
« Reply #70 on: September 20, 2005, 02:45:24 PM »

Oh, and as I have said before, I love Scotland!
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