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[Kentbob]

WW,

I know you're not trying to teach stick people, because if you were I could throw down the bullshit flag and call you out on it.

What I see from your questions is that you are trying to teach people techniques that you learn off of youtube without fully knowing the context of the technique.

I have done stick chokes on a person, not with the idea of "Hey, I gotta stick, let's see if that choke I learned will work on this drunken idiot."  It did work, and left him sore.  However, I never practiced it with the idea that I was going to use it on the first moron to decide he wanted to scuffle.  I can say, personally, I've learned enough to know that, as Hock says, learning to fight is about problem solving.  It's not about adding a technique from youtube to your bag of teaching tools and then going out and showing it students.  If you really want students to be prepared, first learn how to problem solve with what you have, and then teach the students how to problem solve. 

I'm going to hammer on this point continually.  Learn to solve your own problems.  It's nice to get input and ask questions, and I would never discourage anyone from doing so.  However, it's like the old saying, "Catch a man a fish, feed him for a day.  Teach a man to fish, feed him for a lifetime."  If you put the time and effort in to develop your tool bag, and then the time and effort to apply those tools to a wider variety of problems and scenarios, you're going to come up with some really cool shit.  If you simply keep coming back to the forum and youtube constantly, you're not really going to learn anything.

Problem solve.  Solve your problems.  Work through them with your training partner.  Pick a technique, and figure out what you can do with it, or how to make it work in a given scenario.  PROBLEM.  SOLVE.

KEnt

[Dawg]

It was o.k. I was taught to teach it full-speed ' show the skill ', then slowly so the students can better see the breakdown of the elements. Then let them practice explaining that you want to see them working on the technique not the speed ( get it right first then speed up afterwards ). I then stop them after a few minutes and show them again. This time explaining the process point by point.

Learning something like this is hard for beginners so I wouldn't attempt to teach much else in one lesson.

Is that how others teach it or do people prefer other alternatives ? I'm always keen on feedback pos or neg.   

Pretty much how I teach, as well. I also agree that this move can be difficult for beginners. One of my students had stayed after class so I could work on my own stick "stuff" (Hey! I need a human dummy for some of this stuff!). I was performing a cambiata/nunchuk switch to a forward armbar takedown
(Sifu Halleck demonstrating on his Technique of the Month page):
http://www.nsama.com/tech.htm

To make a long story short:
Student thought it was "awesome!".
Student wanted to learn.
End of training time and back to teaching.

I tried to explain before we started that this wasn't really as easy as it looked, but he was excited about learning it and wanted to give it a shot. He had it down pat...40 minutes later. Whew!

Gotta learn to turn off the "teacher" switch when I've got the "training" switch engaged.
Live and learn.

[Kentbob]

Dawg,

I hear you on that one.  It's hard for me to find training partners because I have to bring them up to a certain level before I can actually use them as a training dummy.


Kent

[whitewolf]

Kent-no problem -keep on giving your thoughts-as i think i said before about You tube-i use it to see what people do-if i see something that i think is ok-i try it -one thing i do not do (as you refered to)- I dont pass on that i am a expert by any means with a stick-
hopefully at Hocks next seminar i can go over some of these movements in detail-
we all have to study and learn -WW

[Kentbob]

What you're hearing is not what I'm saying.  I give up.


Kent

[whitewolf]

Problem solve-in your last paragraph-thats what i am doing-guess you read but dont comprehend- - come on  Kent -ease up-we all attempting to carry on best we can-WW