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Author Topic: Question- Dumog?  (Read 4761 times)

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Question- Dumog?
« on: April 21, 2011, 06:12:17 PM »

When one practises the Block Pass Pin exersise and the Pin is transferred into a pull down-is that Dumog? Also when practising a knife stab an?d knife hand is captured and that hand is pulled down while you strike at hand is that Dumog?
reason i am asking is i saw Paul Vunak demo  the technique (with no weapon)  and assume that it isa part of techniques i asked about. Sense I am not able to attend any
classes in this area dealing with tnis thought i wold ask here. Thanks- WW
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Re: Question- Dumog?
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2011, 06:16:14 PM »

Dumog a VERY, very generic Filipino word for wrestling. The word wrestling is a small "w" and the word dumog has a small "d."

But many Americans doing certain variations of Americanized Filipino martial arts don't know this word dumog.

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Re: Question- Dumog?
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2011, 06:37:13 PM »

Hock-appreciate the info but I am wondering is the dumog (small d- ;D) is this a worthwile position to discuss with a student-i.e. you either push -pull the arm so he cannot retaliate and call it dumog (again-small d- ;D)- -if its good then lets bring the word and what it means back into training here in the US. We are only a small part of the martial arts community all over the world-as you well know because you are traveling it.
again thanks in advance -as can be read i am stretching out past just KM-or adding to it-
R/S WW
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Re: Question- Dumog?
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2011, 07:00:00 PM »

Vunak is one of those guys that uses Dumog and for many years people thought Dumog was arm pulling. Pulling or pushing the arm is part of a LOOONG list that can be done with that drill.

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Re: Question- Dumog?
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2011, 06:16:58 AM »

Hock-ok-appreciate responses-so what ill do is more research and if it looks as if it can add to self defense and at same time be not complicated for a student il add the term to some movemets-(the more I study the more I see their is to learn-R/S WW
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Re: Question- Dumog?
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2011, 06:44:18 AM »

Hock-i see what you mean-i looked at more and see as you said their is a lot of vidios using that term-too much to post here-i see the concept though-dont know how some of these movements would relate to a 40-50 or older student learning how to fight off a attacker and get away except fpr the less complicated techniques-i like the term though.
When explaining the term it may make some sense to a student when showing a technique for them to respond-attack-get out.... R/W WW
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Re: Question- Dumog?
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2011, 08:45:07 AM »

Well, in my own experiences, sometimes you just end up in a close quarters situation holding an arm.  The arm push/pull gives you an option in this situation.  There's a lot of options of course, but this is one that I think helps you unbalance an attacker in order to break contact.

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Re: Question- Dumog?
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2011, 09:11:57 AM »

More on that here:

http://hockscombatforum.com/index.php/topic,1271.0.html
http://hockscombatforum.com/index.php/topic,3814.0.html
http://hockscombatforum.com/index.php/topic,4072.0.html

And on this grab drill video clip here:
http://hockscombatforum.com/index.php/topic,7088.0.html
Before you push and pull the arm? YOU HAVE TO GRAB IT!
Once your grab it, you can try"
    - elbow hyper-extentions (breaks?)
    - push
    - pull
But if done properly on all four corners, not just the high right corner that so many Americans and Europeans do, you see you cannot do grabs, hypers, pushes and pulls on every step, especially the two low corners, low right and low left.

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Re: Question- Dumog?
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2011, 02:41:13 PM »

WW-thanks-helps a  lot..
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Re: Question- Dumog?
« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2011, 08:02:49 AM »

Also, on my Level 2 DVD I show the Combat Stitching Module.  This demonstrates how to control your opponent from the arm, shoulder, neck and head.  This is a perfect match for all entries into dumog techniques- very comprehensive!

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Re: Question- Dumog?
« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2011, 08:07:20 AM »

Joe- thanks-WW
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Re: Question- Dumog?
« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2011, 08:41:09 PM »

Joe's Stitching Drill is a great drill with way more options and follow-ups.
Joe has a complete program of performance drills in progressions.

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