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Author Topic: Halo Luminous Sight  (Read 1457 times)

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Re: Halo Luminous Sight
« Reply #15 on: June 29, 2011, 04:38:09 AM »

Ah, the classic trick of the nutjob.  People on the cable news channels do this all the time, the old "cite your sources" in order to disprove that which was never proven in the first place. 

You do realize that at the very least, the Special Operations community, to include SEALS, SF, Rangers, Delta, SAS, GSG9, and so on and so forth, has been shooting for years in low light conditions, in combat, without using your so-called "techniques"?  It's kind of amazing from your point of view that they haven't all come back dead.  The bottomline here is that your information is faulty, and as someone else pointed out, you adjust the facts to fit your perception.

Now, you may not realize this, but they have this cool new thing that can mount on weapons these days called a "laser".  The word "laser" itself is an acronym, which stands for "Light Amplification through Stimulated Emission of Radiation".  I'm not going to go into the science of how it works, but the cool thing about the laser is that when it's zeroed to the weapon, even just a little bit, you can pull the trigger as soon as the laser is on the target, and pretty much be guaranteed of a hit.  It works so well that some of the bad guys have taken to simply taping laser pointers onto the end of their weapons, on the hand guards.  We even have lasers that are infrared, and can only be seen through night vision optics.  Night vision is another cool thing which I'm not sure that you're aware of, but I'll explain that one later.

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Re: Halo Luminous Sight
« Reply #16 on: June 29, 2011, 08:06:19 AM »

But if I use a laser?
What will I do with my old hair curlers?

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Re: Halo Luminous Sight
« Reply #17 on: June 29, 2011, 11:46:53 AM »

I don't even know what the issue is. Is this Jackhole saying that he wants to use sights in close quarters or point shooting?

If you prefer point shooting...good for you. I don't care about any of that.

I just think that anybody that shoots with their middle finger and glues common household items to their guns, probably finger paints with their own poop as well.

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Re: Halo Luminous Sight
« Reply #18 on: June 29, 2011, 06:00:47 PM »

Now Keith I like that one a lot-keep um comming-WW
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Re: Halo Luminous Sight
« Reply #19 on: June 29, 2011, 06:17:05 PM »

I just think that anybody that shoots with their middle finger and glues common household items to their guns, probably finger paints with their own poop as well.

Hock, as has been said before, we REALLY need a "like" button on this forum.   ;D
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Re: Halo Luminous Sight
« Reply #20 on: June 29, 2011, 08:33:11 PM »

I just think that anybody that shoots with their middle finger and glues common household items to their guns, probably finger paints with their own poop as well.

Hock, as has been said before, we REALLY need a "like" button on this forum.   ;D

Agreed! I mean, C'mon!!! Even 5shot probably thinks that's funny! I LOVE the sign!
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Re: Halo Luminous Sight
« Reply #21 on: July 03, 2011, 05:12:37 PM »

I hope this plonker doesn't turn out to be a Brit like myself. We have a long history of precision made firearms and engineering excellence here. Reliability has always been a standard fixture of U.K manufactured weapons, from the Brown Bess, Lee-Enfield, Vickers to the innovative Welrod ( first made in 1938 still used as late as Gulf War one ). I shot Parker & Hale rifles as a kid they are amazingly accurate.
The test of a weapon is it's versatility, the Bren Gun ( LMG ) was used around all conflict zones in WW2 it was still in use ( by then called L4 ) in The Falklands War and was in operational use in Desert Storm. A real weapon ( without the need for any hairdressing ad on's ).     
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Re: Halo Luminous Sight
« Reply #22 on: July 03, 2011, 06:40:37 PM »

I hope this plonker doesn't turn out to be a Brit like myself. We have a long history of precision made firearms and engineering excellence here. Reliability has always been a standard fixture of U.K manufactured weapons, from the Brown Bess, Lee-Enfield, Vickers to the innovative Welrod ( first made in 1938 still used as late as Gulf War one ). I shot Parker & Hale rifles as a kid they are amazingly accurate.
The test of a weapon is it's versatility, the Bren Gun ( LMG ) was used around all conflict zones in WW2 it was still in use ( by then called L4 ) in The Falklands War and was in operational use in Desert Storm. A real weapon ( without the need for any hairdressing ad on's ).     

I adore Enfield rifles.  The Lee-Enfield was a masterpiece, I think.  I read a book about Rorke's Drift during the Zulu war, and the simplicity of the Lee-Enfield seems to have played a large part in the successful defense by the British.  I've shot the enfield .303s before, and I've found numerous Enfields when doing searches in Afghanistan.  A true weapon that stands the test of time.  We found one that was stamped 1864.  I don't know if that was the year it was made, but it was still functional, so if it was, it was well made and well cared for.

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Re: Halo Luminous Sight
« Reply #23 on: July 04, 2011, 11:13:21 AM »

The troops used Martini-Henry's in the Anglo-Zulu War, they where a main stay of the Victorian army. Some examples where found among Afghan Tribesmen in use as late as the Russian invasion in 1979. A well made, robust gun with a simple action is far more likely to far better than a fancy thing with light's, beam's etc. The Afghan's are also big fans of the Lee-Enfield. The short action and rapid fire combined with low maintainace and solid construction make for a good weapon.

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Re: Halo Luminous Sight
« Reply #24 on: July 04, 2011, 12:18:49 PM »

The troops used Martini-Henry's in the Anglo-Zulu War, they where a main stay of the Victorian army. Some examples where found among Afghan Tribesmen in use as late as the Russian invasion in 1979. A well made, robust gun with a simple action is far more likely to fare better than a fancy thing with light's, beam's etc. The Afghan's are also big fans of the Lee-Enfield. The short action and rapid fire combined with low maintainace and solid construction make for a good weapon.

Webby...    

see film
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ck66O0osLhQ

You're right, I mis-remembered.  I got my history confused, it was after the Zulu war that the Lee-Enfield entered service, because of it's lighter caliber.  I think it was something of a mistake, as I believe the heavy caliber of the Martini-Henry factored a great deal into the success at Rorke's Drift.

The Afghan's know what a good firearm is, that's for sure.

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Re: Halo Luminous Sight
« Reply #25 on: July 20, 2011, 08:19:21 PM »

I say chaps, we're talking pistol here, right eh?

Never been to Britian, but have visted and stayed with friends in Victoria BC. Nice people and a great little get away 2 spot.

As to hair curler cores.

Tried the device on a rifle and it is to small in length and at 2-far a distance to be much good for anything when attached some where between the sights on a rifle.

The point is that when you use the device on a pistol, you can easier and faster correctly align the sights and place them on a target, than is the case, when using the sights.

It is very easy to prove that to be the case all by yourself, if you wish to do that. And you don't have to tell anyone that you tried it, as you don't want them to think of you as a sissy. Right?

Now, if faster and accurate means you will live longer, I think that is a plus.

2 equivalent shooters, one with the device and one trusting to just sights. Wonder who gets shot?

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I also don't think using the sights at close quarters distances is possible if you believe that you are in a real life threat situation.

I prefer Point Shooting.

Will start a new thread on that for your continuing amusment :) :)

The title will be: Another nail for the Sight Shooting coffin.
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