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Author Topic: Fat Thai Police Ordered to Reduce Weight  (Read 912 times)

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Fat Thai Police Ordered to Reduce Weight
« on: June 22, 2005, 06:30:22 PM »

Fat Thai Police Ordered to Reduce Weight
By Associated Press

BANGKOK, Thailand -- Thai policemen with waistlines larger than 40 inches have been ordered to reduce their weight in order to look good when they direct traffic, the police department announced Tuesday.

Recent medical examinations of 4,150 police officers in Bangkok found that 49 percent have high cholesterol and are overweight, which is "an obstacle" in directing traffic, said a statement from the Metropolitan Police Bureau.

Eighty-eight of the overweight officers whose waistlines ranged between 40 and 49 inches were ordered to join the "Smart Police," a one-month weight-loss program.

Participants will have to eat according to doctors' instructions and meet for daily exercise and evening meals at the Bangkok hospital sponsoring the program.

Those who do not show progress will also undergo acupuncture, a Chinese medical practice believed to help cure many ills, including obesity.

"We hope this will help create a better image of traffic police in the public's eyes," said police Maj. Gen. Montri Chamroon, explaining why the police force wants them to "look smart."

It was not announced what would be done with officers who failed to reduce their girth.

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Re: Fat Thai Police Ordered to Reduce Weight
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2005, 12:28:06 PM »

I'm in favor of reducing obesity, especially among public servants, but to do so in order for them to "look smart" seems kind of sad.
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Re: Fat Thai Police Ordered to Reduce Weight
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2005, 01:00:34 PM »

Take notice of what is happening in Thailand,the US and other countries that are forcing people to get in shape,get healthy and stay healthy or give up your job or earn less because you are a burden on the Health and Medical benefits of the company.
(notice they speak of appearance,yet they quote the cholesterol levels and obesity percentages)

In the US look at the companies telling people what they can and can not do ,even in their FREE time.
No smoking,No Drinking,no drugs and some say you better be fit enough to look good in your job or pay the price.

Soon we will have enough information from DNA to predict disease, then look out for what you will and will not be able to do or where you will be employed.
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Re: Fat Thai Police Ordered to Reduce Weight
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2005, 07:37:55 AM »

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Re: Fat Thai Police Ordered to Reduce Weight
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2005, 10:26:00 AM »

While the story itself is silly - there is a particular need for police office to be in relatively good shape to be able to physically enforce the law if needed....

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We have a lot of fat sheriffs in our county that need a program to reduce weight.   There's nothing like watching the fat fly as some try to run  :P.
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Re: Fat Thai Police Ordered to Reduce Weight
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2005, 06:21:29 PM »

I would fully support what you say but, in my country at least, it gets strangely complicated.

Firstly, somehow the officers only have to pass tests in their first two year "probationary" period.  After that?  They don't. 

Secondly, and even worse, the tests have been labelled as "sexist", as more women failed them than men.  And, believe me, they were not that tough.  So the tests were "changed".  You get into trouble for saying that the fitness standard has been lowered to let more women in the Force.  It has not been lowered, it has been "changed".  So, for example, what used to be the warm up section of the bleep test is now the entire test in itself!

I want a fit  police service also.  And I want it to be a requirement for the full 30 years.  In return I'd give the officers  at least some time to train on duty, and I'd give them some kind of financial advantage if they maintained the grade.

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Re: Fat Thai Police Ordered to Reduce Weight
« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2005, 08:31:35 AM »

Military Concerned About Troops' Weight
By MARILYNN MARCHIONE, AP

WATERTOWN, Wis. (July 3) - With America at war and in need of a few good men, Jon Schoenherr expected a warm reception when he walked into an Army recruiting office in this Midwestern farm community, intending to enlist. But a sergeant gave the 17-year-old some surprising news.

''He told me I'd have to lose a little bit of weight,'' said Schoenherr, who dropped 50 pounds to qualify.

Besides terrorists, germ warfare and nuclear weapons, military officials increasingly worry about a different kind of threat - troops too fat to fight.

Weight issues plague all branches of the military, from elite Marines to the Air Force, often lampooned as the ''chair force'' because of its many sedentary jobs.

   
 Today's soldiers are supersized, averaging 37 pounds heavier than their Civil War counterparts.   
   
Thousands of troops are struggling to lose weight, and thousands have been booted out of the service in recent years because they couldn't.

However, one of the biggest worries concerns those not even in uniform yet: Nearly 2 out of 10 men and 4 out of 10 women of recruiting age weigh too much to be eligible, a record number for that age group.

''This is quickly becoming a national security issue for us. The pool of recruits is becoming smaller,'' said Col. Gaston Bathalon, an Army nutrition expert.

Unless weight rules are relaxed, ''we're going to have a harder time fielding an Army,'' he said.

Today's soldiers are supersized, averaging 37 pounds heavier than their Civil War counterparts. Military officials say that's not all bad, because most of it is muscle, not fat, and the result of better nutrition. ''Large and in charge'' makes soldiers look more formidable to the enemy, they note.

But at an obesity conference in Las Vegas last fall and in interviews since then, Bathalon and other military officials detailed the heavy burden that excess pounds are causing for some troops and taxpayers.

Weight problems add stress to already stressful jobs, costing many soldiers promotions and leading some to try desperate measures like rubber suits and risky pills to shed pounds.

Problems don't end when active duty does, either. The Veterans Affairs health system increasingly is strained by vets piling on pounds and developing weight-related diseases like diabetes.

Ironically, the big concern used to be soldiers not weighing enough. Congress passed the school lunch program after World War II, worried that too many high schoolers were malnourished and unfit to fight.

''This is the same deal in reverse. We've got young kids who are not going to be qualified for military service. They're either unfit or overfat,'' said Col. Karl Friedl, commander of the U.S. Army Research Institute of Environmental Medicine at Natick, Mass.

USARIEM, as it is known, has 170 doctors, dietitians, psychologists and other scientists who study military medical issues, from preventing heat exhaustion to coping with sleep deprivation. They view soldiers as specialized athletes whose physical condition can be a life-or-death matter. Increasingly, they deal with weight.

It starts with new recruits. Each branch of the service has its own entry rules, but by federal weight guidelines, 43 percent of women and 18 percent of men in prime recruiting ages exceed screening weights for military service, Bathalon said.

Army standards are based on body fat, using a chart for body-mass index - a ratio of weight and height - as a screening tool. If soldiers or recruits exceed chart limits, body fat calculations are done using a formula based mostly on waist size.

Marines can be as much as 10 percent over weight standards to ship to boot camp.

''The Marines say, 'Send us anybody and we'll turn them into a Marine.' They're pretty successful at it,'' Friedl said.

Schoenherr, the Wisconsin Army recruit, was pretty successful, too. After weighing in at 215 pounds, he did his own boot camp during his senior year in high school, going to the recruiting center for 6 a.m. workouts, then downing a boiled egg or two and orange juice before heading to class.

Lunch would be ''tuna fish right out of the can'' or a low-carb wrap at school, he said. After school, he'd lift weights. He's now a svelte 165 pounds and about to join a special forces unit.

''I've had some people who have lost close to 100 pounds to join,'' said Sgt. Chad Eske, his recruiter.

But often, making it into the military is just the start of the struggle. The military even has its own version of the ''freshman 15'' - after basic training, Army women gain an average of 18 pounds in their first year and often have problems with annual weigh-ins that determine whether they can stay.

A survey Bathalon and others did of 1,435 troops referred to Fort Bragg Hospital for weight loss helps show the drastic measures some try. Roughly three-fourths did things doctors recommend - eating less, exercising more and downing more fruits and vegetables.

But many resorted to potentially harmful things. Nearly half tried using rubber suits or saunas to sweat off pounds, a third of men and half of women tried appetite suppressants, and 1 in 5 tried laxatives. Eleven percent of women and 6 percent of men had tried vomiting.

Half of the troops said stress was a reason they had gained weight, and half had come for help because they'd been denied promotion.

''The Air Force is not escaping the national trends,'' Maj. Christine Hunter said at the obesity conference, showing a photograph of the new Baghdad Burger King, already the third busiest in the world.

About 1,500 troops were involuntarily separated, or kicked out, of the Air Force from 2000 to 2003 for failure to maintain weight, she reported.

In 2003 alone, more than 3,000 people were kicked out of all branches of the military for failing weight standards, Bathalon's study reports.

''You lose your income, you lose your retirement, you lose your medical benefits,'' he said.

Even those with long military careers sometimes develop weight problems afterward, burdening the VA health system, which treats about 5 million veterans each year, half of them over 65.

They tend to be sicker than the general population. More than 70 percent are overweight and 33 percent are obese, said Richard Harvey, a health psychologist at the VA Center for Health Promotion. Pain is the biggest reason they give for not exercising, and 31 percent say a disability prevents it, he said.

About 20 percent of veterans have diabetes, compared to 7 percent to 8 percent of the general population

''We knew that there were enormous costs with that,'' Harvey said, so he developed MOVE, a comprehensive program of psychological counseling, nutrition, exercise, medications and even sometimes bariatric surgery.

Parts of it started in October 2003 at 17 pilot sites, and the hope is to have a standardized program available to all veterans, said Dr. Steve Yevich, director of the VA health promotion center.

It will be a big improvement from 2001, when a survey by chief of staff Mary Burdick revealed that only 37 of the VA's 160 major medical centers had weight management programs, ranging from intense programs ''down to just a little old dietitian sitting there,'' Yevich said.

Sending soldiers home healthy is the top goal, said Friedl of the Army research center.

''It's not enough to recruit healthy young men and women and later return them safely to their families,'' he wrote in a recent medical journal article. ''We now try to return them better than when they joined the Army with the promise that they will 'be all they can be.'''

Increasingly, that means weighing a little less.

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Re: Fat Thai Police Ordered to Reduce Weight
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2005, 06:30:28 AM »

It is a cultural thing.  The USA has led the way in fast junk food.  This is the price to be paid.  The UK has willingly followed, as has many other western countries.

We live in a fast food society, with slow soldiers and slower police officers........
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Re: Fat Thai Police Ordered to Reduce Weight
« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2005, 07:00:31 AM »

If you want to see something really sad. Watch police officers chase someone. Then, watch what happens if the fleeing bad guy stops running. Everyone is chasing the guy who runs. Most are clueless what to do once they stop running and start fighting. In 14+ years as a cop I've seen how the same officer who dead set on arresting the bad guy and is running here & running there, jumping this & jumping that. Freezes and shut down, both mentally & physically, once the criminal stops running.

It's the Tiger by the Tail syndrome. "I've got'em...now what?"
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