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[noload]

I think if I was in a fight and my buddy filmed it instead of helping out, I'd beat the crap out of him.

[Keith Miller]

I think if I was in a fight and my buddy filmed it instead of helping out, I'd beat the crap out of him.

Oh Shit! Where's the "Like" button? LOL!

[Webby]

I'd be shouting '' Put the xxxxing camera down and come and help me !! ''.

[F. Fuller]

Well said. 

[Jumonkan]

I think its a constant problem constests like the UFC and NHB have set up in the Jujutsu world. Having been in the Jujutsu world most of my life I've seen the raise of Bjj, in that time I've seen one instructor who was and ex army ranger teaching his people to be aware that grappling should not be the first skill set you rely on. He would have two people attack them and it was interesting to see the realization set in that they needed to do something else besides go to the ground or submit. It took a few times but they eventually began staying on there feet and trying to some how subdue the first person to be at least a little free to deal with the second.

 I think Bjj is a good base art for self-defense but I just wish more people taught it like the ex ranger so there people understood the danger better.

James

[F. Fuller]

I think its a constant problem constests like the UFC and NHB have set up in the Jujutsu world. Having been in the Jujutsu world most of my life I've seen the raise of Bjj, in that time I've seen one instructor who was and ex army ranger teaching his people to be aware that grappling should not be the first skill set you rely on. He would have two people attack them and it was interesting to see the realization set in that they needed to do something else besides go to the ground or submit. It took a few times but they eventually began staying on there feet and trying to some how subdue the first person to be at least a little free to deal with the second.

 I think Bjj is a good base art for self-defense but I just wish more people taught it like the ex ranger so there people understood the danger better.

James

There are a growing number of them, but as BJJ is primarily taught and coached as a sport or a pre-requisite for MMA, they are often marginalized as far as what is practical and effective for the average person for self defense. NHB, MMA and Sport Grappling put BJJ on the map and that is the only image that most people have of it and many people live vicariously through the victories of their role models. It is not surprising (although frustrating) that we would have such a disconnect.

I train and teach BJJ among other things... but I keep a critical eye on what should be taught for self protection vs competition or just rolling... and even I get blasted by people who don't know the difference.

[whitewolf]

I just watched the vidio-I think Jmechs coment was among the best of the replies-I am not a BJJ expert -but- i would not have gone to the ground - as Hock says it was a cluster F#@**K-the group could have 
over powered him-held  him- and also the  family  should have been told to move out of the area.-JMHO WW

[Webby]

The cage or ring is a competition with rules, first rule is two guy's fighting. In 90% of fight's I've witnessed there's been more than half a dozen guy's involved. If your strategy is to take someone down and fight them on the deck you completely expose yourself to the wrath of the others in the mix. The tactic must be '' I must not go to the floor ! ''. Non-violent bystanders will '' Stick the boot in ! '' if they see someone on floor. Watch the CCTV fights on You Tube, you go down in a crowd, you ain't getting up.   

[whitewolf]

Webby-back on shore-WW

[Irrast]

That must be some good burger. Dave Jacobs couldn't be bothered.

It looks a little staged, IMHO. That's some bad acting by the drunk guy.

But I agree with what some of you have been saying. It's not a good idea to go to the ground in a fight like this. You don't even need to be a black belt at anything. When I first started, I just focused on mastering a few hand to hand combat techniques like elbows and knee strikes. But in the situation in the video, I think a hit to the throat is he most effective. It will incapacitate the drunk and shut him up.

[Canuk]

And maybe kill him at which point you get to master the art of not dropping the soap in the shower

[Jumonkan]

I think its a constant problem constests like the UFC and NHB have set up in the Jujutsu world. Having been in the Jujutsu world most of my life I've seen the raise of Bjj, in that time I've seen one instructor who was and ex army ranger teaching his people to be aware that grappling should not be the first skill set you rely on. He would have two people attack them and it was interesting to see the realization set in that they needed to do something else besides go to the ground or submit. It took a few times but they eventually began staying on there feet and trying to some how subdue the first person to be at least a little free to deal with the second.

 I think Bjj is a good base art for self-defense but I just wish more people taught it like the ex ranger so there people understood the danger better.

James

There are a growing number of them, but as BJJ is primarily taught and coached as a sport or a pre-requisite for MMA, they are often marginalized as far as what is practical and effective for the average person for self defense. NHB, MMA and Sport Grappling put BJJ on the map and that is the only image that most people have of it and many people live vicariously through the victories of their role models. It is not surprising (although frustrating) that we would have such a disconnect.

I train and teach BJJ among other things... but I keep a critical eye on what should be taught for self protection vs competition or just rolling... and even I get blasted by people who don't know the difference.

well that is good to know as I said he was the only person I have encountered that taught that way.

James