Hock Hochheim's Combat Talk Forum

General Category => Gun Fighting => Topic started by: Hock on January 16, 2006, 06:28:42 PM

Title: Entries make Exits
Post by: Hock on January 16, 2006, 06:28:42 PM
On gun day on one 4-day CQC Group camp we had a veteran EMT and a Red Cross official come in and do sessions on Tactical (or ditch) Medicine. The sessions were on treating your gunshots and knife wounds, as well as your partner's (as well as drills on evacuations of the wounded under no-fire, low-fire and heavy fire conditions). 

One point of importance was the exit wounds of gun shots. It might appear the bullet has hit someone and is still contained inside the body because there is no obvious exit wound. But the flight path of bullets inside the human body are very fickle. What goes into your shoulder may well come come out your forearm. Blood from the forearm may become disguised inside the blood from the shoulder wound draining down! People have died from mistakes like this. Perform an organized, full body search of the wounded.

Title: Re: Entries make Exits
Post by: Bri Thai on January 16, 2006, 07:15:05 PM
I'll keep this brief, it is a true story.

Back in about 1990 I was a constable patrolling South Manchester.  I broke up a fight, with one group going one way, and the other group somewhere else.  So I was happy.

A few minutes later we got a report of a shooting.  I attended and found a guy lying on the floor, hollering his head off.  "I've been shot!"  But he seemed strong enough (all that shouting) and his mates were laughing, totally convinced that he had not been shot.

We could fing no wound whatsoever and, when the paramedics came, neither could they.

It was only the doctors who saw the tiny bullet hole in the shoulder of his jacket.  The bullet had gone in through the shoulder and lodged in a lung.  Lucy for us he didn't die.

Turns out that an ex squaddie (who'd lost the previous fight) and gone home for his stolen army pistol.......

You can't be too careful with bullet wounds.  Sometimes the entry wound is hard to spot as well!