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General Category => Gun Fighting => Topic started by: Bri Thai on February 02, 2006, 02:12:17 PM

Title: Deputy shoots unarmed man
Post by: Bri Thai on February 02, 2006, 02:12:17 PM
Whats this all about?  Its just been featured on UK TV.  They showed the tape too.  Is that Deputy just an idiot, or is there something not being reported?


A videotape released Tuesday shows a sheriff's deputy shooting an unarmed Air Force policeman who recently returned from Iraq as he apparently heeded an order to get up off the ground.

KTLA-TV repeatedly aired a 40-second clip it said came from a Chino resident who videotaped Sunday night's shooting, which followed a 100-mph car chase.

Senior Airman Elio Carrion, 21, was listed in good condition at Arrowhead Regional Medical Center in Colton.

His father-in-law, Ernesto Paz, told KTLA-TV that Carrion was shot three times in the chest, ribs and leg.

Carrion was a passenger in a Corvette that crashed into a fence following a brief chase, authorities said.

Officials with the San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department released few details about the incident. Sheriff's investigators took the original tape, declining to release it to the public or describe what it shows.

The deputy, whose name has not been released, has been placed on paid administrative leave, which is routine procedure in officer-involved shootings.

"As with all investigations, the circumstances involved in this shooting will be reviewed," Sheriff Gary Penrod said in a
statement Monday. "It would be inappropriate for me to make any additional comments until the investigation is completed."

The incident began with a deputy trying to stop and then chasing a Corvette through a neighborhood, authorities said. The car skidded and slammed into a block wall.

The next moments on a dark and grainy videotape show Carrion on the ground next to his car, talking to a silhouetted officer who is pointing a gun at him. Carrion is supporting himself on one arm and his face is brightly lit by the officer's flashlight.

There is some hard-to-hear conversation back and forth, but Carrion appears to be trying to reassure the officer, telling him he is unarmed and is in the military. He repeatedly says, "I'm on your side" and adds "we mean you no harm."

At one point, the officer seems to say several times, "Get up."

Carrion says, "I'm gonna get up." As he rises, the deputy fires at least four shots from close range, and Carrion collapses, crying out in pain.

"Shots fired! Shots fired!" someone shouts.

A report on KTLA showed five numbered cones on the ground, apparently placed by investigators to indicate where shell casings were found -- a common practice in shooting investigations.

Carrion has not been charged with a crime, although the incident remained under investigation, according to sheriff's spokeswoman Robin Haynal.

The driver of the Corvette, identified by authorities as 21-year-old Luis Fernando Escobedo, was arrested for
investigation of felony evading and was taken to the West Valley Detention Center in Rancho Cucamonga.

Carrion's 19-year-old wife, Mariela, told the Los Angeles Times that when her husband came out of surgery Monday afternoon, he said, "'They shot me for no reason."'

She said Carrion and Escobedo were at a party at the Montclair home of Carrion's parents when they left to go to the store.

Carrion had been scheduled Wednesday to report back to his unit, the 2nd Security Forces Squadron, at Barksdale Air Force Base in Shreveport, La.

Air Force spokesman Lt. Frank Hartnett said Carrion worked as a security officer at the base. Carrion joined the Air Force in January 2003 and recently returned from a six-month tour in Iraq, Hartnett said.

Title: Re: Deputy shoots unarmed man
Post by: Professor on February 02, 2006, 07:47:27 PM

There is a federal investigation around the incident.
Title: Re: Deputy shoots unarmed man
Post by: threegun on February 03, 2006, 05:36:48 AM
I will wait before passing judgement. The cop fired 5 shots. He must have thought he was in danger or he is a loon.
Title: Re: Deputy shoots unarmed man
Post by: Bri Thai on February 03, 2006, 05:53:25 AM
You didn't wait until passing judgement in the Menendez case.