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General Category => Stick and Baton Combatives => Topic started by: Milldog1776 on December 16, 2004, 10:15:16 AM

Title: ASP Red Guns
Post by: Milldog1776 on December 16, 2004, 10:15:16 AM
Hi,

Anybody know of a place to buy ASP Red Guns without paying $140 each. I think they would be great Dos Manos training aids...but I refuse to pay that much. Wholesale maybe?

Thanks
Title: Re: ASP Red Guns
Post by: aahlersmeyer on December 16, 2004, 10:24:15 AM
http://www.tactgear.com/blue_guns.htm

These are blue and much cheaper.  I have the 19 and it works well with my Kydex for training.
Title: Re: ASP Red Guns
Post by: Professor on December 16, 2004, 11:39:37 PM
http://www.tactgear.com/blue_guns.htm

These are blue and much cheaper.  I have the 19 and it works well with my Kydex for training.

Blue guns and ASP guns are about the same price.   Aahlersmeyer is looking at the long guns......
Title: Re: ASP Red Guns
Post by: Milldog1776 on December 17, 2004, 02:59:57 AM
Yeah...I think they just might have to be a "one at a time" purchase. They're just too expensive, when students can just use sticks instead. (non revenue generating) I believe is the term.

If I'm gonna pay $140-$160 dollars for a "rubber" gun...I might as well go to the pawn shop and buy real ones for these guys to beat the Hell out of!
Title: Re: ASP Red Guns
Post by: Hock on December 17, 2004, 03:40:19 AM
I remember I&I Sports in Carson City had a barrel of rubber guns for about $5 each. That was a few years ago though. This last weekend I was in theior branch store and west LA and ...no rubber guns.

But these rubber guns can be found and work quite well sometimes.

I also enjoy the wooden rubber band guns, because in a pinch you can actually shoot something "as a lesson learned."

But these wooden guns do break when ground fighting or when grappling over them gets a little heated.
Title: Re: ASP Red Guns
Post by: Milldog1776 on December 17, 2004, 04:09:28 AM
Yeah, I was thinking about the wooden guns, but came to the same conclusion Hock.

I'll try I & I. Thanks.

So Hock, I know you've been on Liddy. When are you gonna do Hannity? G. Gordon is on too late at night here in The People's Republic of Northern California.
Title: Re: ASP Red Guns
Post by: seanross on December 17, 2004, 06:11:23 AM
I wonder if a whittled axe handle would make a decent (cheap) training gun.  I haven't tried it, but I am now curious what I could do with some wood working tools and an axe handle.  That might solve the twin problems of cheap and sturdy.
Title: Re: ASP Red Guns
Post by: Professor on December 17, 2004, 08:51:33 PM
Yeah, I was thinking about the wooden guns, but came to the same conclusion Hock.

I'll try I & I. Thanks.

So Hock, I know you've been on Liddy. When are you gonna do Hannity? G. Gordon is on too late at night here in The People's Republic of Northern California.


A long dos manos stick work well for most.   It's the cheapest option.
Title: Re: ASP Red Guns
Post by: Deadeye Dave on December 21, 2004, 08:33:11 AM
I have used 3/4 inch plywood and used a scroll saw to cut it to shape. Handguns last forever, and I have only seen one longun break in 13 years of training. BUT, I used really high-dollar plywood...
Title: Re: ASP Red Guns
Post by: Milldog1776 on December 28, 2004, 11:17:46 PM
I wonder if a whittled axe handle would make a decent (cheap) training gun.  I haven't tried it, but I am now curious what I could do with some wood working tools and an axe handle.  That might solve the twin problems of cheap and sturdy.

Sounds cool, yet very time consuming. I don't have that kinda time. But I would like to see what you come up with.
Title: Re: ASP Red Guns
Post by: szorn on December 30, 2004, 09:06:28 AM
Blue Guns are actually better made and more detailed, and you can find a few dealers online that offer them somewhat cheaper than the Red Guns.

Steve
Title: Re: ASP Red Guns
Post by: WTAC on December 20, 2006, 07:45:00 PM
Rings-Blue guns are very brittle compared with the ASP Red guns. I have seen a couple of long guns made by Rings break during long gun weapons retention courses. Just my 2 cents
Aaron
Title: Re: ASP Red Guns
Post by: Professor on December 20, 2006, 07:58:17 PM
Rings-Blue guns are very brittle compared with the ASP Red guns. I have seen a couple of long guns made by Rings break during long gun weapons retention courses. Just my 2 cents
Aaron

Wow....a thread pulled from 2 years ago....I forgot it existed.....oh well.


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