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General Category => Unarmed Combatives => Topic started by: Hock on November 27, 2007, 08:03:09 AM

Title: "One Problem! You Got a Stance!"
Post by: Hock on November 27, 2007, 08:03:09 AM
"One Problem! You Got a Stance!"

Heard a funny story the other day about a friend of mine. I'll call him Jack. Way back in the mid 1990s, Jack made a trip to the then Mecca of Martial Arts Training - Southern california - for a week-long, private lesson with thee, then semi-famous pair of a modern fighting, progressive "Bobsey-Twins," of a conceptual lean. Both spent as much time training as they did dodging criminal charges and abusing drugs. About 3/4s through the week Jack wanted to know how he was doing. After all, this was costing him thousands of dollars. Ralph and Tim Bobsey said,
 
"Jack, you are doing really fine. Fine. But you still have one problem. You still...have a stance."

A..a...a stance? This apparently really freaked my friend Jack out. A stance. The rest of the week he was distracted and preoccupied with this suggestion. Captured in a stance. How should he stand himself when doing all the moves and drills and not look like he had a stance. I guess you would have to know the fastidious Jack to appreciate his reaction.

In my oldest of training outlines I taught the "stance of no stance" and I do understand the overall concept and message. But the very idea of this heavy Zen message passed to Jack via Bobsey, especially after several snorts of Bobsey Twin cocaine, I just have to laugh and picture the mind-binding problem.

It probably went like this...

"The stance of no stance (sniffle) has no stance but to stand there in a stance of no stance and not have a stance. Yeah, dude. (sniffle) That's the stance. None. No. Don't just stand there! You just ...stand there. (sniffle) Come on! That's a stance! No...Yes"

Stance on! Errr, off, dude!

Hock
Title: Re: "One Problem! You Got a Stance!"
Post by: kamagong on November 27, 2007, 04:19:09 PM
I think I still have some of those old MA videos of the bobsey twins from back in the day somewhere in my video library.  Yes, all you whippersnappers, before DVD's there was a thing called a video tape.  :D  I recall a lot of sniffing between the teaching and explaining of techniques.
Title: Re: "One Problem! You Got a Stance!"
Post by: Milldog1776 on November 27, 2007, 06:36:57 PM
"You're exposing my soft white underbelly!"  ;D
Title: Re: "One Problem! You Got a Stance!"
Post by: Joe Hubbard on November 28, 2007, 07:16:23 AM
Yeah, but who's on first?
Title: Re: "One Problem! You Got a Stance!"
Post by: Hock on December 24, 2007, 10:11:50 AM
Who
Who is on first

Idonknow is on second

Hock
Title: Re: "One Problem! You Got a Stance!"
Post by: Hock on September 01, 2008, 07:58:30 AM
Ponder
Title: Re: "One Problem! You Got a Stance!"
Post by: whitewolf on September 01, 2008, 10:51:41 AM
I dont remember these guys I was in Nam (I think ) at the time-and before that I was studying under the watchful guidance of Gary Alexander and friends.
whitewolf (el  lobo Blanco)

Title: Re: "One Problem! You Got a Stance!"
Post by: JimH on September 01, 2008, 11:56:51 AM
You might say they were Baffling
One is Now an
Enigma
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