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General Category => Unarmed Combatives => Topic started by: gematriot on August 02, 2008, 05:15:20 PM

Title: A question on Donn F. Draeger
Post by: gematriot on August 02, 2008, 05:15:20 PM
Hi everyone.
I found this on wikipedia:

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Draeger held the rank of Captain during peace time and Major during war time in the United States Marine Corps. His tombstone reflects his peace time rank of Captain.

My question would be: Is this accurate, do people typically have their ranks adjusted for "wartime"?

Thanks
Title: Re: A question on Donn F. Draeger
Post by: Wizard on August 02, 2008, 08:19:03 PM
I have no idea who Donn is or the context of your question.  As a prior Army Cpt. and Major, I can comment on the "adjusted" question, though.  I was not involved in "personnel", though.

In short, one doesn't usually get promoted because it's wartime.  There are probably exceptions to this, and perhaps it was done in days of old?  However, being in a wartime environment provides ample opportunity to gain experience, commendations, and the like.  These things can get one promoted perhaps ahead of schedule, expecially if one has been "fast-tracking" toward the next rank anyway.

Just some thoughts, for what they're worth.
Title: Re: A question on Donn F. Draeger
Post by: Benjamin Liu on August 02, 2008, 11:24:30 PM
I have no idea who Donn is

He was an early American practitioner of Japanese Koryu martial arts and a prolific martial arts writer/researcher.
Title: Re: A question on Donn F. Draeger
Post by: whitewolf on August 03, 2008, 04:10:15 AM
He possibly  was awarded a battlefield commission to  higher rank and then was reverted after the war. WW
Title: Re: A question on Donn F. Draeger
Post by: JimH on August 03, 2008, 02:00:41 PM
In regards to Don Draeger I would say that Whitewolf is Correct.

In WWI and WWII there were Hundreds of Men selected and given Battlefield Commissions (like Audey Murphy)

Some men were allowed to keep the Commission ranks,others were reverted back ,some a rank some lower.

In Vietnam,the Marine Corps had a commission to select men to get Battlefield rank.
(There were less than 100 men promoted this way in the USMC)

The US Army said they did not have any Battlefield promotions during Vietnam.
(General Singlaub said the Army did in fact have a few Battlefield promotions but many were in Special Operations or POWs.)
One such Man I happen to Know,Retired Colonel Robert Howard,US Army,Medal of Honor Winner,promoted from Staff Sergeant to 1st Lt.

I know a retired Marine who was a Jr ROTC Instructor and who had obtained a battlefield Commission in Vietnam.
He had been promoted from Staff Sergeant up to Captain Rank.
When he returned to the US he was dropped back in rank.

Again depending on the man and the circumstances,some Battlefield Commissions stayed and then some were reverted back.

Apparently Don Draeger was one reverted back.
Title: Re: A question on Donn F. Draeger
Post by: Hock on August 06, 2008, 04:05:31 PM
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