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General Category => Stick and Baton Combatives => Topic started by: Hock on January 11, 2011, 12:29:41 PM

Title: Citizen Walking Cane
Post by: Hock on January 11, 2011, 12:29:41 PM
Okay...here it is...
http://www.necessitieschild.com/b1b.htm

Whatcha' think?

Hock
Title: Re: Citizen Walking Cane
Post by: Kelly Knight on January 11, 2011, 02:11:51 PM
Your topic subject line....brilliant!

Rosebud...

Why does it need a sliding handle?

Kelly Knight
Title: Re: Citizen Walking Cane
Post by: Whiskey Jack on January 12, 2011, 12:33:02 PM
Mechanically, the sliding handle seems like a big point of failure.  In terms of utility, it also seems like something that's going to slow you down if you need to use the cane.  It'd sure be nice if the bad guys would wait for you to transform your cane into a tonfa, but I doubt they're usually that polite.  ;D

Some parts of the text are a bit worrisome too:
Most people are familiar with canes with knives in the handle or perhaps even canes which turn into blowguns (I'm also familiar with X-Wing Fighters and Jesse-Ventura-Mounted-Rotary-Cannons.  it doesn't mean that they're a good idea for self-defense)

transforms an versatile attractive cane into a lethal self-defense (Lethal?  Really?  I'm sure it's possible, but that seems not only to leave the door wide-open to liability, but to actually send out engraved invitations to it.)

Title: Re: Citizen Walking Cane
Post by: Kentbob on January 12, 2011, 04:57:50 PM
Eww....


I wouldn't foist that off on anyone.  I think I'd tell them to get one of these first.

http://www.fashionablecanes.com/5750.html (http://www.fashionablecanes.com/5750.html)

Personally I think the cane without the hook, with just the knob on the end is fine.

Kent
Title: Re: Citizen Walking Cane
Post by: redhawk44357 on January 13, 2011, 06:28:19 AM
It seems to me that in a situation like that you would rely on gross motor skills and grip the stick more to one end and just swing at the guy in front and jab back at the head of the guy behind.  Then take a quick step to the side and take stock "do i need to hit these clowns again?"     Kentbob.............I have a couple like that and the one time i swung it, it seperated and almost clocked me in the head!!   I carry a straight stick made from 1" to 1 1/8" hardwood with a crutch tip on the bottom and a rubber furniture cap for my hand.  Its definatly sturdy and easily brought into play, if needed.
Title: Re: Citizen Walking Cane
Post by: Webby on January 13, 2011, 06:41:37 AM
If I'm being a pain if I say this sorry, but he's got a duff leg and he  needs the cane for balance, but when he's mugged a bit of magic happen's and his leg gets better. As soon as the danger has passed he's limping again.
If a person is really handicapped surly this would not work, the swinging action alone would throw his balance off and he'd take a tumble.

That's me...picky S.O.B !

Webby     
Title: Re: Citizen Walking Cane
Post by: whitewolf on January 13, 2011, 06:47:13 AM
Webby-good point-you are observent-WW
Title: Re: Citizen Walking Cane
Post by: Kentbob on January 13, 2011, 09:11:40 AM
Hey, Redhawk, good to know.  I was actually looking for solid, one piece carbon fiber walking canes, but couldn't find any.  Someone I know has a carbon fiber cane that is hollow about halfway down, and has a certain weight of mercury in it to add to the impact if swung at someone.


Kent
Title: Re: Citizen Walking Cane
Post by: whitewolf on January 13, 2011, 10:59:38 AM
As far as use of a cane- Mark Shuey of cane masters has great canes for use in a defense situation- WW
Title: Re: Citizen Walking Cane
Post by: JimH on January 13, 2011, 12:07:35 PM
The majority of Mark Shueys canes would get you thrown in jail if you used them and they presented the cane in court,

Sharpened points
sharpened pointed handles for hooking the neck
blood Groves
Notches to cause pain and tear skin

Like Hock said a basic straight walking stick is best.
Or
An umbrella,they have carbon shaft umbrellas
Title: Re: Citizen Walking Cane
Post by: Hock on January 13, 2011, 12:10:51 PM
http://www.shoppingblog.com/blog/722083

The "fantastic, unbreakable combat umbrella"
see the film

Hock
( and in use! See - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLEGncp0hog&feature=related )
Title: Re: Citizen Walking Cane
Post by: whitewolf on January 13, 2011, 01:59:43 PM
Agree that the cane i talked about is dangerous-i was just saying it is a better weapon than the one with that movable handle-i also agree the umbrella mentione would be good-
They do sell good strong canes with rounded tips -that would work- WW
Title: Re: Citizen Walking Cane
Post by: Kelly Knight on January 13, 2011, 08:25:10 PM
Holy Toledo! That "Fantastic" cane is two hundred bucks with shipping!

I gotta win the lottery before I'm buying anything like that for that amount.

Kelly Knight
Title: Re: Citizen Walking Cane
Post by: Dawg on January 13, 2011, 11:24:31 PM
Holy Toledo! That "Fantastic" cane is two hundred bucks with shipping!

I gotta win the lottery before I'm buying anything like that for that amount.

Kelly Knight

Kelly,
I'm with you! I'll just limp along and do the best I can with the tools God gave me...
and the knife I always carry in my pocket...
and the gun I keep handy on my nightstand (and beside my recliner!)...
and the palm stick in the truck...etc., etc., and etc.
(I would like to win the lottery, however!)

Title: Re: Citizen Walking Cane
Post by: Webby on January 14, 2011, 09:29:29 AM
A bit of history, picture the scene: London, Marshsall St, 11pm 29th Feb 1912 :

Two men Cutler and Allard had a fall out over the racecourse business. Allard lay in wait for his rival as he dropped his girlfriend at home. He stepped out of the darkness and stuck him several blow's with his fist. Cutler staggered and fell into the gutter, where Allard bent over him and punched him some more. He then picked up his umbrella, stood astride the prostrate man lined up the steel ferrule at the tip of his brolly; with surgical adroitness, he speared it through his victim's right eye socket into his brain, fracturing his skull in the process ( he died the next day ). Witnesses restrained Allard and he was arrested after a struggle with the Police. He was sentenced to seven years penal servitude building roads in the Austrialian outback.   
 
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