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General Category => Unarmed Combatives => Topic started by: Hock on September 24, 2012, 04:22:53 PM

Title: Unrealized gun disarm endings
Post by: Hock on September 24, 2012, 04:22:53 PM
"Magazine covers and system brochures, webpages and Facebook pages love to show a still photo of this move, seen to the left here...a grabbed gun, and a fist to the face. They almost never show, what happens next. This three-step dance has become ever so popular that when I show a variety of pistol disarms, almost always, someone walks up to me and asks, "Hock, so you don't always advocate striking the face?"
That' ll be a no. Because... (see the 24 September entry.)
Title: Re: Unrealized gun disarm endings
Post by: noload on September 24, 2012, 07:52:07 PM
OK, I admit that I've pretty much trained in a bubble for the last 10 plus years and while I've seen this move I never gave it much thought. I was taught to often skip the disarm and get the darn thing pointing back into the other guy and let him commit suicide if that's his choice. If you're convinced that your life is in danger enough to fight back against an armed thug why do these combative guys have the "victim" do a move that leaves said thug still able to fight? I'm not trying to make myself out to be a badass and I know that DF is a bitch in the courts, but what makes these guys think Tommy the Thug will always just roll over because you broke his finger and took his gun away?

Title: Re: Unrealized gun disarm endings
Post by: F. Fuller on September 25, 2012, 07:03:23 AM
Excellent point, Hock. In the program I teach we discuss this as well. There an awful lot of MA people out there teaching "rubber gun" tactics where they can be very imaginative and creative with their moves because they are trying to get a certain "look", even if it defies physics and the realities of the firearm.

Very nice.