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General Category => Unarmed Combatives => Topic started by: jasonc on January 10, 2013, 07:18:17 PM

Title: Favorite drills
Post by: jasonc on January 10, 2013, 07:18:17 PM
I've made Damian Ross's "three chop drill" something I include in every workout. What are some other favorite drills people have, either on a BOB or something else?
Title: Re: Favorite drills
Post by: F. Fuller on January 11, 2013, 01:17:33 PM
Damian Ross?
Title: Re: Favorite drills
Post by: whitewolf on January 11, 2013, 05:22:55 PM
One of many---Jab,Cross,grab rear of head-knee- WW
Title: Re: Favorite drills
Post by: BenKrav on January 17, 2013, 09:30:22 PM
How about an eye strike, cross to exposed jaw, double ear smash (and now you have both hands on his head as a bonus)?
Title: Re: Favorite drills
Post by: JimH on January 17, 2013, 10:55:05 PM
When all these multiple strike drills are done is the attacker,(the person you are hitting),reacting/moving the way the first strike would really impact him/her ?
In most of the first strikes listed,if done with intent,they would move the head/body in ways that would not really allow the second strike,as decribed, to be pulled off as thought/trained.

Just realize when doing multiple strike drills ,everything after the first blow will most likely not be where you expect them to be,and will make that second strike less likely and the thrid strike even MORE Less Likely to be pulled off.

Examples:
The Ross three chop sequence:
The first downward edge of hand to the collar bone will,if delivered with intent,cause the person hit to drop down to the side struck,and if the strike was delivered while moving forward with body drop or drop step,the body will also be moving back.(So down and back,making the second chop hard to pull off)

The Jab to the cross:
The Jab if delivered right and with intent will drive the head back and away,the hands will probably come up,the hips will jut out and the jab will be hard to pull off.

The eye strike and cross to jaw:
A straight in finger jab to the eye,whether it actually contacts the eye or not will make the person you hitpull their head back and away,or drive their head back and away if actual eye contact is made,Hands will come up to cover,hips will jut out and the jaw will most likely not be in position for a good cross,most likey the jaw will not be exposed for the strike.

Just food for thought when doing multiple strike drills and expecting to be able to pull full sequences off as trained.

My opinions
Title: Re: Favorite drills
Post by: BenKrav on January 18, 2013, 12:46:24 PM
Most likely your opponent will have his chin down so you're not going to get him with a direct throat strike or cross to the jaw. You (I'm using the word "you" in a 3rd person sense) need the jab or eye strike to get him to pull his head back-that's the point, to set up the cross. But if all you have is the jab or eye strike and you are not able to quickly follow through with something else, he'll be able to recover and he'll be even more ticked off.

You want to be fast enough to take advantage of the opportunity and not so fast that you are throwing a cross when it doesn't make sense. There's no such thing as "If A then B" (SCARS?) so you will need to have several possibilities to train for.

Another possibility could be a jab/eye strike followed by a shot to the liver, if he brings his hands to his face. Or a kick if his hips jut out.
Title: Re: Favorite drills
Post by: JimH on January 18, 2013, 07:45:35 PM
The title of the thread is Favorite drills:
Again,the drills listed have 3 strike combos in a pre set pattern.
After the first strike there is NO Guarantee that strike number two will be there or available for the preset combo secnond strike follow .

While we cannot guarantee that everyone will react to a strike similarly,as in SCARS or TFT,we can be assured of some reaction similar when I attack an eye,throw a jab,or edge of hand a collar bone.

Here is a video of the eye strike and an explanation similar to what I described:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7F0ezkLZ-o

Again the strike may not produce the exact same action ,but trying it on real people with control will show how a basic response may result.

My opinion
Title: Re: Favorite drills
Post by: whitewolf on January 21, 2013, 06:16:13 PM
The vidio does  show some options  which should  be  taught when teaching a 3 strike drill- everything changes when you face a real opponent-practising the 1-2-3 in same  manner sets one up for possible failure-work it 1-3-2  or 3-2-1- in any  case continueing towards the opponent using your body weight and speed will possibly over come distance so u  can connect with the 2nd strike-JMHO Also WW
Title: Re: Favorite drills
Post by: Professor on January 21, 2013, 07:32:56 PM
(http://neighborgoods.net/peoplepods/files/images/8050.resized.jpg)
Title: Re: Favorite drills
Post by: Kentbob on January 22, 2013, 08:12:33 AM
I'm partial to this one.  Cordless drills bog down on me.

https://www.milwaukeetool.com/~/media/Images/Power%20Tools/Corded/0302-20/17037_0302-20.ashx
Title: Re: Favorite drills
Post by: Mr. Barnett on January 22, 2013, 02:32:08 PM
The hubad drill is still the all-time most very ninjarific super badass drill in the entyre world!!!    I like the hubad drill.  standing, kneeling, on the ground, running, walking, crawling, w/elbows, feet, legs, knees, whateva!

 8)
Title: Re: Favorite drills
Post by: Kentbob on January 22, 2013, 11:15:09 PM
Do you like it in a box?  Do you like it with a fox?
Title: Re: Favorite drills
Post by: Mr. Barnett on January 23, 2013, 05:55:35 AM
I like it on a house, I like it with a mouse. With Elbows it's a challenge to do;  with a stick it's fun, that's true, but a smack to the head, that's beat two.
Title: Re: Favorite drills
Post by: Canuk on January 23, 2013, 06:05:36 AM
Dr Seuss's big book of beat downs! in stores for xmass!
Title: Re: Favorite drills
Post by: Mr. Barnett on January 24, 2013, 06:31:12 AM
love it! :)
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