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 1 
 on: March 28, 2023, 10:36:12 AM 
Started by Hock - Last post by Hock
Hello!
As you know talk forums sort of died a long time ago. We keep this open for some small historical info, But Facebook and Instagram changes almost every day. Look here for all unarmed combatives, self defense information.

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 on: June 25, 2021, 09:45:42 AM 
Started by Hock - Last post by Hock
It's been 25 years, and for some maybe even 30 years. I have seen thousands and thousands of people in 14 countries those years. Some seek rank. Some seek rank. Some don't, it is up to you. Either way, it's a book keeping nightmare which is why I have reached out to all of the USA active instructors, inactive instructors and black belts here, as many seem to ignore or given up on old-school email. I have updated the USA instructor list. There are only about 120 of you active in just in the USA.

Covid stifled! Check the list. A number of you folks, for a variety of reasons got promotions (yes free) because you are due and deserved. With each individual, I have my reasons why. I just need to see you once in a while, or I've observed your commitment to teaching and pushing the envelope. My call because, as the Big Dawg Kerwood would call me, the "Big Kahuana."

For many I am one line on your resume. Or, useful in your doctrine. Or some teach from my outlines. Of course, you are free to do whatever you want. This is about you, not me.

So please look this page over. You may have been promoted. I may have some errors in your past. I need help in fixing the page. Some instructors are either inactive or cannot be listed here due to the policies of their employers, usually the police or military.

And, if you feel you are an active instructor but aren't listed here, contact me back. This page is a work in progress I am trying to clean up. (Lots of people click on this page.)

As always, there are still no franchise fees or tithings or dues to be an active instructor. I hated this bloodsucking in my past years and will not subject people to them now.

Earning a Black belt in like 2004, doesn't mean you are an active instructor on this page, it just means you earned a black belt once. Lots of people get black belts and never teach, or don't want to. To be active, you need to be...active. Usually, I need to see you when possible.

International instructors list clean-up-catch-up underway for next month.

Here's the USA list-
https://www.forcenecessary.com/hocks-worldwide-certified-instructors/hocks-usa-combatives-pac-fma-instructors/

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 on: June 11, 2021, 01:12:24 PM 
Started by Hock - Last post by Hock
Max Pallen, Filipino and GM of Senko Terras and I were eating dinner in California a few years back (decades now) and he asked me why I had officially quit teaching Filipino martial Arts.

I looked him in the eye and said, “because I’m not you,”

Of course I never really quit. I still do teach some FMA here and there, but more often in a small, abstract way. I’ve graduated two big FMA “colleges.” Remy Presas and Ernesto Presas and I have slipshod, bad, "GED" in Inosanto systems. But, you don't see my name “W. Hock Hochheim Filipino Supreme” anywhere, certainly not in my ads, resume or on my webpage.

I explained further, "because I am not you Max. I am not a Filipino and the ceiling for success of a non-Filipino teaching Arnis/Kali/Escrima is short." I think to be a real successful, flag-bearer of a Filipino teacher and I mean a REAL one, a big leaguer, you have to have the "right" name: You:
-actually could be Filipino. (Even if you've never been there!) Or,
sound or look like you are, or, your name has to be non-euro-white guy, sound Latino, or sounds, well...non Euro white guy. It doesn’t even matter if you ever been to Philippines to train. Just be “Spanishy’ and first doors will open. Its not “white privilege.” It’s...Spanish privilege.” 
It really helps if your name also sounds Pacific islandy, foreign.

I can think of just a rare, few white-bread boys only teaching FMA that are successful. My friend Bill McGrath for one. And if he didn’t have a day job back home, he’s be twice as worldly successful. He has “overcome.” The rest? Less than the fingers on one hand. Who else do you know can pull that off in FMA? Keep in mind, I have seen the big leagues for decades, and if you name drop someone right  now, one of your heroes? I’ll bet they are not in the big leagues. He might think he is? But he is not. The world is littered, (oh...littered is not a good word, full...yeah...) full of little-leagers, double AA ball, doing stuff, trying to do stuff.  They are just handicapped. They start out handicapped. Most remain handicapped.

Other friends like to remind me that white boys can be great teachers of yellow, black and brown systems, too. Sure they can! But they start out handicapped, which is my point. I am talking here about Business NAMES!

What constitutes handicapped? Look at the business, name game-

"Tim Jones Filipino Martial Arts.” Not too exciting.
“Jauqien Wojobee Filipino Martial Arts,” Hmmm, well, whose he? Sounds interesting. (The an odd, foreign name thing...)
“Calibra Latino Filipino Quesadia, Tactical FMA.” Wow. I’m in. Where is he next?

Let’s take a look at this from another angle. A non-FMA angle-

"Tim Jones BJJ.” Not too exciting, huh?
“Jauqien Wojobee BJJ,” Hmmm, well, whose he? Sounds interesting.
“Calibra Latino Quesadia, BJJ.” Wow. I’m so in. Where is he next? or this...
“Tim Jones Krav Maga.” Not too exciting, huh?
“Intergalactic Krav Maga,” Hmmm, well, whose that? Sounds interesting. Are the franchise fees cheaper? (That seems to be very important in the Krav world.)
“Ollie Meir Krav Maga.” Wow. Holey moley! I’m so in. Where is he next?

or this...

“Tim Jones Russian Systema.” Not too exciting, huh?
“Russian Systema Evolutions,” Hmmm, well, whose that? Sounds interesting.
“Mikhail Kusovik Systema.” Wow. Давай - Davai! I’m so in. Where is this Commie next?

(I am NOT picking on Tim Jones. I don't know a Tim Jones and I guess there's a Tim Jones is out there working very hard. Sorry.) 

Names. Take a second to inspect a clever name “10th Planet Jiu-jitsu.” To normal citizens, (your bread and butter business need) they might ask, “What the hell is that?” and “Didn’t they just lose Pluto off the list?” But, we in the MA business know the score, and it’s very clever name, with many happy people doing it. Eddie Bravo (also a fabulous name) is an excellent, innovative, athlete. Eddie avoided the Latino “O” with a solar system, name game. But he did risk the challenge of naming something that people cannot recognize immediately. And, he will never be as popular as a “Gracie.”

Names. Take a second to think about this. The old World Tae Kwon Do Federation, the “WTF,” voted to change their name to avoid the new “what the f___” popular expression.

Names. If you are a reader here, you know how mystified I am with the term "Urban Combatives," Are there no fights in rural and suburban areas?  Some of the greatest fighters in the UFC are farm boys. Whazzup?

It takes luck and strategy and the IQ to know when and where you start with a name-game, handicap.  And all this is name-game, advertising manipulation we all fall victim too. No matter the category from Nike shoes, body waxing to Rolex watches, religion and politics.

In the martial arts, it use to be Japanese privilege, or Okinawan privilege, Korean privilege. Now it’s Israeli privilege and Brazil privilege. You name it. The name game. Name of thrones.  I have several terrific friends who are educators and constantly preach the importance of critical thinking and anti-advertising courses from elementary school to college. They sit there and preach this clarity, yet vote straight Democratic for decades no matter the issues, wearing Nike work-outs suits and top brand watches and driving status cars. A cognitive breach in what they say and what they actually do. This runs deep in humanity. Tribes. Clubs. Bias. None of us are perfect and critical thinking is a deep and daily challenge. It is out true  societal salvation.

I have always done martial arts just to mine the survival methods and not to "join" something. Just lookin' for the essence. I am still  rather interested in the essentials of FMA. I am not much of a joiner, rah-rah, type anyway. A skeptic, you might say. Loyalty is deep dive in critical thinking for me. I fail at it sometimes, but hope I remember to keep trying.

Anyway, Max Pallen laughed and got a kick out of my whose-who, explanation decades ago. It still holds true. My long-time student Al Moore reported, "I was eating dinner with one of the popular Filipino Masters about twenty years ago. During the conversation I mentioned training with you, and a few others. His first knee jerk response was, 'I don't respect any training in FMA from non-Filipino instructors.'  My immediate thought was WTF, I am one of those, and why I am still giving you money! Unluckily, the Kool-aid drinkers are in every system of Martial Arts."

About a year ago, another guy asked me, “why do you hate the Filipino martial arts?” I asked him why in the world did he think I hated the Filipino martial arts? Where did you get this idea? He couldn’t give me one single reason. I guess he thought I was a traitor since I am a FMA graduate? Since I don’t have crossed, rattan stick designs tattooed on my forehead...I’m a hater?

I am not so sure that design would look so good, on my white-boy, Euro forehead? A bit stark, I think.

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 on: June 11, 2021, 01:04:01 PM 
Started by Hock - Last post by Hock
Martial Arts School Names, Death Cults and Bad Business.
(Palace Intrigue Report # 386 or "How I shot myself in the foot with a bad name.")

For 30 years now, and 24 of those under my own namesake, I’ve been in the business of teaching martial material and once in a while official martial arts - as people like to know and do the arts I have studied, and they ask me about them. I have spent, I think, disproportionate time in Chinese, Japanese and Filipino systems. Through a microscope, looking glass, I've spied on the connection of “businesses” and “hobbies” and “arts” and school names.

I am a traveling circus. I have stumbled upon the business-school names around the world that are...well...not wise or good. They might well have been passable in 1960s or 70s or maybe the 80s. Some schools and systems have been named after the worst historical things. Lord knows in the modern times of today, the tiptoeing around everyone and everything can multiply bad names and bad ideas into even worse problems and failures.

It always surprises me to see certain school and system names, and logos modeled after the worst choices. Like crazy death cults or negative things that just a moment of research would uncover. Things like...

*****

Juramentado, in Philippine history, refers to a male Moro swordsman who attacked and killed targeted occupying and invading police and soldiers, expecting to be killed himself, the martyrdom undertaken as a form of jihad, considered a form of suicide attack. For generations warlike Moro tribes had successfully prevented Spain from fully controlling the areas around Mindanao and the Sulu Archipelago, developing a well-earned reputation as notorious seafaring raiders, adept naval tacticians, and ferocious warriors who frequently demonstrated extraordinary personal bravery in combat. While Moro forces could never match opponents' firepower or armor, such bands used intelligence, audacity and mobility to raid strongly defended targets and quickly defeat more vulnerable ones. One extreme asymmetric warfare tactic was the Moro juramentado. A Moro might be said to have "gone juramentado" or be "running juramentado." This is not a good name for school or system. Or, like the next one - Amok

Amok or Running Amok, sometimes referred to as simply amok or having gone amok, also spelled amuck or amuk, is the act of behaving disruptively or uncontrollably. The word derives from Southeast Asian Austronesian languages (especially Malaysian and Indonesian), traditionally meaning "an episode of sudden mass assault against people or objects usually by a single individual following a period of brooding that has traditionally been regarded as occurring especially in Malay culture but is now increasingly viewed as psycho-pathological behavior". The syndrome of "Amok" is found in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-IV TR). The phrase is often used in a less serious manner when describing something that is wildly out of control or causing a frenzy (e.g., a dog tearing up the living room furniture might be termed as "running amok"). This or something like it, is not a good name for school or system.

Beserkers. “In the Old Norse written corpus, berserkers were those who were said to have fought in a trance-like fury, a characteristic which later gave rise to the modern English word berserk (meaning "furiously violent or out of control"). Berserkers are attested to in numerous Old Norse sources. To "go berserk" was to "hamask", which translates as "change form", in this case, as with the sense "enter a state of wild fury." For example, the band of men who go with Skallagrim in Egil's Saga to see King Harald about his brother Thorolf's murder are described as "the hardest of men, with a touch of the uncanny about a number of them ... they [were] built and shaped more like trolls than human beings."

I'll ask of the berserks, you tasters of blood,
Those intrepid heroes, how are they treated,
Those who wade out into battle?
Wolf-skinned they are called. In battle
They bear bloody shields.
Red with blood are their spears when they come to fight.
They form a closed group.
The prince in his wisdom puts trust in such men
Who hack through enemy shields.

This name, or something like it, is not a good name for school or system.




The Boxers of the Boxer Rebellion  "In 1900, in what became known as the Boxer Rebellion (or the Boxer Uprising), a Chinese secret organization called the Society of the Righteous and Harmonious Fists led an uprising in northern China against the spread of Western and Japanese influence there. The rebels, referred to by Westerners as Boxers because they performed physical exercises they believed would make them able to withstand bullets, killed foreigners and Chinese Christians and destroyed foreign property. From June to August, the Boxers besieged the foreign district of Beijing (then called Peking)." - History.com





Kamikaze. [kamiꜜkaze]; "divine wind" or "spirit wind"), officially Tokubetsu Kōgekitai "Special Attack Unit"). I add this here because it is like a death cult, and I have actually seen it used as a course name years ago. It’s gone now in its own self-fulfilling, prophecy . In WW II, they were a part of the Japanese Special Attack Units of military aviators who initiated suicide attacks for the Empire of Japan against Allied naval vessels in the closing stages of the Pacific campaign of World War II, designed to destroy warships more effectively than possible with conventional air attacks. About 3,800 kamikaze pilots died during the war, and more than 7,000 naval personnel were killed by kamikaze attacks. Kamikaze aircraft were essentially pilot-guided explosive missiles, purpose-built or converted from conventional aircraft. Pilots would attempt to crash their aircraft into enemy ships in what was called a "body attack" (tai-atari) in planes loaded with a combination of explosives, bombs, and torpedoes. Accuracy was much higher than that of conventional attacks, and the payload and explosion larger; about 19% of kamikaze attacks were successful. A kamikaze could sustain damage that would disable a conventional attacker and still achieve its objective. The goal of crippling or destroying large numbers of Allied ships, particularly aircraft carriers, was considered by the Empire of Japan to be a just reason for sacrificing pilots and aircraft. This name, or something like it, is not a good name for school or system.

*****

Forgive me for cutting and pasting and for not listing references. These are just a few collections of sources. If you are really interested in any of these topics you can search the internet and easily  find articles and books on the subjects. I just did a quick “catch and release” for a fast tour, fast reading here. Do look it all up.

As for system and course names, I always imagine a worst case scenario where you are on the stand in a criminal trial against you and the prosecutor asks you what martial art course you study, and then for the jury, you have to name and define it.

“Well, it’s about going crazy and killing everyone, even yourself...”

You might chose to remain silent of course, but rest assured, the police, the prosecutors and the grand jury have heard all about your hobbies and associates. It’ll get into the trial, one way or another.

This names, or some names like them, are not good names for schools or systems.

The business, name-game is tricky, tricky, tricky. I am well aware it might even be harder in the martial business. I notice that many store fronts these days just say “martial arts.” Decades ago, it might have said only, “Karate.” Safe. Boring, but safe. To get past boring, sometimes you think you are representing coolness, counter-cultures, fads and ultimate macho-ism, but your business, club, and hobby names may get you on a government watch list.

Don’t pick a bad name. Don't join a bad group. If you have? Change it. (I myself am inching away from the word “combatives.”) Change it. If not? You are shooting yourself in the foot, as they say, or you might start a new gun group called “Foot Shooters Anonymous.” You can use “anonymous” in the title because no one will know who you are or what you do. And, you’ll also have a limp.


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 on: May 25, 2021, 12:21:29 PM 
Started by Hock - Last post by Hock
In these 27 years of seminars...In outside-the-US travel, it is not uncommon to return to the same city each year.
(HELP! I am starting to collect internationals here, need your help in recollections. I may be a few clicks off or forgetting somewhere. Email HockHochheim@ForceNecessary.com )

Australia - compiling...
  Adelaide (several times)
  Beaudesert (many times)
  Brisbane (many times)
  Enoggera, Gallipoli Barracks, Australian Army Defense Force
  Gold Coast (many times)
  Kempsy (several times)
  Maitland (several times)
  Mandurah
  Melbourne greater metro area (many, many times)
  Melbourne Police Academy
  Perth (several times)
  Sydney greater metro area (many, many times)
  Townsville (several times)

Belgium
  Antwerp
  Belgium counter terrorism police
  Ghent (many, many times)
  Ninove/Brussels

Canada
  Barrie
  Thunder Bay (many, many times)
  Toronto (many, times)
  Victoria

China
  Beijing and metro area (several times)

Finland
  Helsinki metro area (many times)
 
Germany - compiling...
  Bamberg
  Berlin (several times)
   - taught at a Larry Hartsell school,
   - taught at Counter-terrorism school sponsored by the US Embassy,
  Braunschweig (several times)
  Erlensee (Frankfurt police SWAT training facility)
  Frankfurt am Main (many, many times throughout the city)
  Heilbronn (several times)
  Munich
  Mannheim (several times)
  Nuremberg (many times)
  Rammstein Air Base (military only)
  Uelzen (Military base, but German Police only)
  Wiesbaden

Guam
  Several cities on the island
  Anderson Air Force Base

Hungary
  Budapest metro area (many, many times)
  Szolnok  (many, many times)

Ireland
  Greater Dublin area
  Belfast police academy

Italy
  Milan area (many, many times)
  Tuscany (Special Operations Headquarters)
  Venice
  Verona

Mexico
  Monterrey

New Zealand
  Auckland metro area (several times)

Philippines
  Negros Island

Poland (several times)
  Warsaw
  Lodz

South Africa
  Johannesburg metro area (several locales)
  South African Police Academy

"Southwest Asia" (Middle East)
  Teaching on military bases, (OPSEC prefers this "SW Asia" name)

Spain
  Madrid

Sweden
  Gothenburg (several times)
  Stockholm (several times)

Switzerland
  Zurich

United Kingdom -being compiled...
  Birmingham
  Gatwick
  Gravesend - Metropolitan Police Specialist Training Centre (many times)
  Hendon - Metro Police Academy - Hendon Police College (many times)
  London greater metro area (so many, many times)
  Kensington - Duke of York SAS British Military Base
  Kings School, Gloucester
  Manchester (several times)
  Northern Ireland - Belfast Police Academy
  Norwich
  Oxford University
  Stroud (several times)
  Telford (several times)
  Wollford, Royal Artillery Barracks, British Military


               






 6 
 on: April 21, 2021, 04:37:18 PM 
Started by Hock - Last post by Jeth
Understood.
There was some great content here and some quality instructors posting too. I miss the format of a forum - longer posts, debate etc.

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 on: April 21, 2021, 04:02:39 PM 
Started by Hock - Last post by Jeth
Wow - what a list!
Great also to be back looking at this forum - Such a great resource pre - "zuckerbook". I hope there's a "future plan" for it.

 8 
 on: April 15, 2021, 10:57:56 AM 
Started by Hock - Last post by Hock
27 Years of SFC/FN traveling this 2023.
Two, three years traveling before that - JKD and FMA.
Seminars. 27th anniversary of the SFC/FN teaching this year, 2023. BUT, a few more years before that going around teaching Arnis and JKD. Years a' traveling. For the heck of it, the nostalgia of it, I made a list of US locations. Some 175 and counting US cities and bases, and a number of them, many times over.

Many times? Like Denver to name one, since the 90s - maybe 25 times there? 30 times? But on the city list, "Denver Metro" counts as one location in the city list below. When I say "metro" that could mean several events-cities within a metro area. For example in the category of Dallas-Ft Worth (DFW) that is MANY cities inside the DFW metroplex. 

In terms of the US military, I have been a paid teacher/consultant for the Army, Air Force, Navy-Marines and even the Coast Guard in the USA (and overseas, a coming-soon list, US bases in Guam, Germany and the Middle East - or as they like to call "Southwest Asia" or the "Near East" as opposed to the Far East)

I now realize that I have taught in every state except 6, Vermont, South Carolina, New Hampshire, Utah, North Dakota and Montana. Six of the 50 states. The flip side of that, that means my clodhoppers have trounced in 44 states. Jane says I should make it a point to try and get in those 6 before...before...to what end, though? Really?

Next comes the international cities list here on another link.
I need your help to see if I forgot any. For just an example of forgetfulness there are still two cities in New Jersey, one southwest, one way north and central, I just can't remember the city names. These have been for civilians, military and police. Usually they are a mix of these folks.

When frequently asked where my favorite place to go is? I once said would say..."home." Now that my Jane is gone, that is not much of a favorite place anymore.

Collected so far (awaiting your memories and clarifications):
Alabama, Birmingham - (several times)
Alabama, Florence
Alabama, Huntsville - (many, many times)

Alaska, Anchorage (several times)

Arizona, Phoenix metro area (many times)
Arizona, Stafford (several times, police)
Arizona, Tucson
Arizona, Sahuarita (several times)
Arizona, Parker (Sheriff's Office, several times)

Arkansas, Jonesboro
Arkansas, Little Rock (several times)
Arkansas, Pine Bluff
Arkansas, Waldron

California, 29 Palms Marine Base
California, Camp Pendleton, Marine base (many times)
California, Concord (UFC flagship gym several times)
California, Los Angeles "Metro" (so many, places & times)
California, Modesto (several times)
California, Oakland (several times)
California, Sacramento (many times)
California, San Diego Metro area (many, many times)
California, San Diego Police Academy
California, San Jose
California, San Leandro (many, many times)
California, Pleasanton (many times)

Colorado, Denver Metro area (So many places within & times)
Colorado, Fort Collins
Colorado, Colorado Springs

Connecticut, Boston Metro (many, many times)
Connecticut, Norwich

Delaware, Hockessin (many, many times)

Florida, Fort Walton Beach
Florida, Tampa Bay
Florida, Vero Beach (many, many  times)

Georgia, Atlanta Metro area (several times)
Georgia, Brunswick
Georgia, Cummings (several times)
Georgia, Jonesboro
Georgia, Rome
Georgia, Savannah (several times)
Georgia, Tifton
Georgia, Valdosta (several times, regional police only)

Hawaii, Honolulu (several times) (civilians and SWAT)

Idaho, Coeur d' Alene area
Idaho, Lewiston

Illinois, Chicago metro area (many times & places)
Illinois, Libertyville (many, many times)
Illinois, Naval Station, Great Lakes (US Navy)
Illinois, Romeoville (many, many times)

Indiana, Evansville
Indiana, Indianapolis
Indiana, Kokomo (many times)
Indiana, Seymour

Iowa, Fort Dodge Army Base
Iowa, Cedar Rapids
Iowa, Davenport
Iowa, Marion

Kansas, Oberlin
Kansas, Wichita

Kentucky, Florence (many times)
Kentucky, Louisville (several times & places)

Louisiana, Baton Rouge
Louisiana, Shreveport
Louisiana, Monroe (several times)
Louisiana, Ruston

Maine, Bangor

Maryland, Annapolis Naval Academy (many, many times)
Maryland, Baltimore metro (many, many times)

Michigan, (a mid-sized city police academy-can't remember)
Michigan, Detroit (several times)
Michigan, Grand Rapids (several times & places)
Michigan, Jackson
Michigan, Kalamazoo (many, many times & places within)
Michigan, Stevensville
Michigan, Benton Harbor
Michigan, Coloma

Minnesota, Alexandria

Mississippi, Meridian (many, many times)

Missouri, Branson
Missouri, Excelsior Springs
Missouri, Independence (many, many times)
Missouri, Kansas City metro (many, times)
Missouri, Springfield
Missouri, St. Louis (several times)
Missouri, Fulton (Westminster College, several times)
Missouri, Columbia

Nevada, Henderson
Nevada, Las Vegas (many, many, many times)
Nevada, Nellis Air Force Base (several times)
Nevada, Pahrump, Front Site
Nevada, Indian Falls
University of Nevada, Las Vegas (several times)

New Jersey, Clifton
New Jersey, Atlantic City (many times)
New Jersey, Bellmawr
New Jersey, Englishtown
New Jersey, Fort Lee
New Jersey, Hamilton area (many, many times)
New Jersey, Lambertville (many times)
New Jersey, Lindenwold

New Mexico, Albuquerque (several times)

New York, Buffalo
New York, Manhattan
New York, Rochester
New York, New York City

North Carolina, Asheville
North Carolina (northeast side, small city, can't remember)
North Carolina, Charlotte (several times)
North Carolina, Garner (several times)
North Carolina, Greenville
North Carolina, Mt Olive
North Carolina, Murphy
North Carolina, Raleigh (several times)

Ohio, Blanchester
Ohio, Cincinnati  (many, many, many times)
Ohio, Cleveland metro area (several times)
Ohio, Cleveland SEALE Police Academy (several times)
Ohio, Dayton
Ohio, Miamisburg

Oklahoma, Altus
Oklahoma, Chickasha (several times)
Oklahoma, Lawton, (several times)
Oklahoma, Oklahoma City
Oklahoma, Tahlequah (many times)

Oregon, Eugene (several times)

Pennsylvania, Abington (several times)
Pennsylvania, Erie
Pennsylvania, Kennett Square (several times)
Pennsylvania, Newtown (several times)
Pennsylvania, Pittsburgh (police only and civilians)

Rhode Island, Johnston (many times)
Rhode Island, North Kingston (many times)
Rhode Island, Providence

South Dakota, Sioux Falls (several times)

Tennessee, Chattanooga (several times)
Tennessee, Murphysboro (many times)
Tennessee, Nashville (many times)
Tennessee, Tullahoma (so many times)
Tennessee, Knoxville (several times)
Tennessee, Memphis (several times)
Tennessee, Jackson

Texas, Georgetown (many times)
Texas, Abilene (so many times)
Texas, Brownsville
Texas, Bryan
Texas, Dallas (had a school there - Dallas Gun Club)
Texas, Dallas-Ft Worth Metro area (numerous times)
Texas, Denton (School there, Golds Gym, 1989 to 1996)
Texas, Denton County FEMA (assigned military police)
Texas, El Paso
Texas, Garland (several times) (civilians & SWAT team)
Texas, Houston (many, many, many times)
Texas, Lackland Air Force Base (many times)(SWAT & MPs)
Texas, Katy (several times)
Texas, Richmond, (several times)
Texas, Lewisville (had a school there)
Texas, Nacogdoches
Texas, San Angelo (several times)
Texas, Texoma Police Academy (many, many, times-police only)
Texas, Sherman (martial arts-civilians)
Texas, Austin, (several times)
Texas, Kerrville
Texas, San Antonio (many, many times)
Texas, Webster (many times)
Texas, Manheim KR Training Range (several times)
Texas, Copperas Cove-Killeen

Virginia, Fredericksburg (many times)
Virginia, Norfolk (many places & times)
Virginia, Quantico Marine base
Virginia, TRADOC Army base, Ft. Monroe
Virginia, Radford (Karate College)

Washington DC metro area (many, many times)
Washington, Kennewick (a few times)
Washington, Seattle (a few times)

Wisconsin, Milwaukee (several times)
Wisconsin, Waukesha (several times) (citizens, police and SWAT)

West Virginia, Philippi (several times)

Wyoming, Casper (several times)

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 on: February 18, 2021, 06:25:37 PM 
Started by Hock - Last post by Hock
Hello!
As you know talk forums sort of died a long time ago. We keep this open for some small historical info, But Facebook and Instagram changes almost every day. Look here for all unarmed combatives, self defense information.

Force Necessary Webpage
https://www.forcenecessary.com/self-defense-combatives-courses-hock/learn-unarmed-combatives-self-defense/

Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/hock.hochheim.9/

Hock's author page
https://hockhochheim.com/

Hock's Instagram page
https://www.instagram.com/hocks_combatives/

Look here for all Knife Info
https://www.forcenecessary.com/self-defense-combatives-courses-hock/knife-combatives-knife-fighting-by-hock/
 

 10 
 on: February 14, 2021, 04:31:19 PM 
Started by Hock - Last post by Hock
Hello!
As you know talk forums sort of died a long time ago. We keep this open for some small historical info, But Facebook and Instagram changes almost every day. Look here for all unarmed combatives, self defense information.

Force Necessary Webpage
https://www.forcenecessary.com/self-defense-combatives-courses-hock/learn-unarmed-combatives-self-defense/

Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/hock.hochheim.9/

Hock's author page
https://hockhochheim.com/

Hock's Instagram page
https://www.instagram.com/hocks_combatives/

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