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Author Topic: A Certain Instructor Has Lost the Plot  (Read 2319 times)

Nick Hughes

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A Certain Instructor Has Lost the Plot
« on: September 14, 2007, 06:43:41 PM »

It's tough...you like to be nice to all people and allow them leeway for their personal opinions etc and so you (at least I do) try my damndest not to criticize other instructors.  But, we're also on a forum where we gather to discuss different ideas and thought processes to see if there's anything to be learned or discarded.

In this particular case I can't just sit idly by and let this message go without discussion.

The man I'm talking about is Gabe Suarez. Now, I don't have any personal issues with GS...I was a member of his forum for a long time until I had to cut back on just how many forums I was on.  Every now and then, as a result of that membership I receive his newsletter.

The latest leaves me incredulous

GS is obviously extremely anti radical islam - and I have no issue with that.  In this latest issue, after slating the average American for not taking the war on terror seriously enough - again, something I have no issue with - he talks about the possibility of terrorists taking over an American school much like the Chechnyans did in Russia.

What I do take umbrage with is his advice.  Fuck law enforcement efforts...take a rifle, tons of ammo, an FBI jacket if you get one, sneak in (with the map stolen while at your next PTA meeting) to the school, kill any opposition you come up against and rescue your little johnny.

Am I the only person who thinks that is a plan doomed to get every kid in the school slaughtered?  Am I the only one who thinks if a terrorist spies you sneaking into the school wearing said jacket they're going to assume the American infidel are coming to mount a HR mission and will set off their explosives, or machine gun all the kids they've hearded into whatever room they've hearded them into?

What if there's fifty of them and one of you?  What if they're wearing suicide bomber vests and you shoot one and he "goes off?"  How about being charged for impersonating a federal officer?
How about you sneaking in to get your kid, and you see another guy sneaking round with a gun (another Gabe fan) and you mistake each other for terrorists? (unless you're both wearing purloined Fed jackets I suppose?)

Mind boggling...I had to check my calendar twice to make sure it wasn't April fool's day.

Yer Uncle Nicky

PS: Sorry if this offends any Gabe fans but given he's pretty quick to criticize every man and his dog I guess it would be the pot calling the kettle black if he took umbrage with me criticising something he wrote.
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Re: A Certain Instructor Has Lost the Plot
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2007, 07:02:32 PM »

Once again, Uncle Nicky shines the light of truth! Some people (GS) are just way over the top,
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Re: A Certain Instructor Has Lost the Plot
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2007, 07:41:38 PM »

Well if the US sees a situation as was seen in the School in Russia ,we will see the same results, I say this as the suspects had no intention of surrendering,they were going to kill the kids.

To give advice to some parent who has a rifle and has hunted a few times in their life,MAYBE,to tell them to go into a school and take out the suspects to save their kids is a joke.

The rebels in Russia were Highly trained.
Had preplaced the materials,including Fuel bladders,explosives and pressure release detonators prior to the take over.

Walls,doors and entry ways were wired with explosives.
The classroom was wired and kids were placed on pressure release detonators.
The cieling areas and areas around the doors had been rigged with suspended fuel bladders.
Yes tell the parents to storm the school.

It is tough enough for specialists and law enforcement officers to try and develop and carry out a plan without nit wits telling everyone to rush in and save their kids.

Well when they do it the first responders had better have a load of Body Bags for the parents ,the kids,the rebels and the first responders they get killed.
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Re: A Certain Instructor Has Lost the Plot
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2007, 11:28:59 PM »

I would be worried about the police mistaking me for a terrorist and shooting me.

Also how much info do you have if a school is being shot up?

By the time you find out about it the event will likely be over.
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Re: A Certain Instructor Has Lost the Plot
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2007, 05:56:07 PM »

I would be worried about the police mistaking me for a terrorist and shooting me.

Yup. That would be a big problem. BIG.
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Re: A Certain Instructor Has Lost the Plot
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2007, 09:51:41 PM »




  Sorry Nick but youll have to stay second on Gabes list below me since hes the president of my fan club. After all last year he actually came to the website expressing his discontent with my conclusions about him and his Arizona Waterboys.

  Remember this is a guy who is outside of any normal circles of law enforcement training who in the past publicly stated they keep no records of who they train to protect their students from legalities or is that to protect themselves from training nutters to do nutty stuff and then claim they never heard of the guy if they go off in public.

  I don't trust any bunch who never signed their name at a MEPS station and got a real uniform to protect America. All this t-shirt uniform stuff is truly BS, and very dangerous BS at that. I have been saying for some time that people like Gabe and his group Suarez International will be responsible for getting guns out of the hands of honest citizenry, its only a matter of time till one of the nutters they train opens up fire on some Muslim family at a McDonald's or Toys-R-Us or some public place for no reason other than delusions of heroism.
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Re: A Certain Instructor Has Lost the Plot
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2007, 06:40:32 AM »

I guess Mr. Suarez never heard of the 6 P's.  Proper Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance!  Too have someone with a rifle and a souvenir jacket assault a school to save kids is ridiculous.  With my military/law enforcement training I wouldn't even think of this.  These are the people that cause more problems than solve.  Someone should keep this guy under watch, he's going to get someone killed.

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Re: A Certain Instructor Has Lost the Plot
« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2007, 10:47:39 AM »

I guess Mr. Suarez never heard of the 6 P's.  Proper Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance!  Too have someone with a rifle and a souvenir jacket assault a school to save kids is ridiculous.  With my military/law enforcement training I wouldn't even think of this.  These are the people that cause more problems than solve.  Someone should keep this guy under watch, he's going to get someone killed.

Greg


Yeah....that kind of thing needs to stay in the fiction section of Barnes and Noble where it belongs.  I think it would be more effective in the long run to pressure the PD into placing long rifles in the hands of the school police officers.


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Re: A Certain Instructor Has Lost the Plot
« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2007, 05:46:29 PM »

Yes it is one thing to be around a public incident and with a gun. Its another thing to assault a place about to be assaulted by charging 'active-shooter trained, armed police ready to shoot at anyone with a gun.

I would be bet a million bucks Gabe fully knows this point, so this is very odd.

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Re: A Certain Instructor Has Lost the Plot
« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2007, 05:49:51 AM »



   Gabe is all about selling Gabe, thats his product. The Warriors who type on Warrior Talk, those poor unfortunates who got short dicked by life believe that by associating with Gabe as yes men they can add one extra inch of cock for themselves too, and in fact it is true, as long as they never turn on the lights nor get a hooker that knows how to do math!
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