Important Links

Hock's Blog

Hock's Downloads


Hock's Facebook

Hock's Seminars

Hock's Web Page

Hock's Author Page

Hock's WolfPack Author Page

Lauric Enterprises, Inc.
3075 Willow Grove Blvd.
McKinney, TX 75070




W. Hock Hochheim's

           Combat Centric

Talk Forum for Military, Police, Martial Artists and Aware Citizenry

Hock Hochheim's Combat Talk Forum

  • August 15, 2020, 07:00:34 AM
  • Welcome, Guest
Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  


Author Topic: Expecting guns where there are none  (Read 2724 times)


  • Administrator
  • Level 4
  • *****
  • Posts: 6238
Expecting guns where there are none
« on: November 19, 2010, 07:17:06 PM »

Another great clinical....

(and by the way, another high-level examination that splits hairs and defines emotion and anger issues, rather than just blaming everything and anything on the bogey man "adrenaline.")



  • Forum Member
  • *
  • Posts: 7
Re: Expecting guns where there are none
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2012, 06:29:23 AM »

A while ago there was a thread (even older than this one) where somebody posted a link to a website with software that tested people's ability to distinguish mundane objects (possibly only mobile phones) and guns being drawn.  It was a kind of game and images of the potential bad guy holding the mobile phone or gun briefly would be flashed up and you would have to make a snap decision concerning what they were holding.  Does anybody remember the thread or have the address of the web site with the software (or a similar web site)?
(I can't find it with "Search" or even by manually stepping through all of the threads in the gun fighting forum.  It may have been posted in "general" or somewhere else),



  • Level 4
  • *****
  • Posts: 4676
Re: Expecting guns where there are none
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2012, 09:38:21 AM »

Just  finished reviwing the "Clinical" report-  lots in there-I would offer that this type test  could be intergrated into a self defense  program where the student is  faced by a stranger who draws "something" from the pocket -the student is to decide if its  weapon or as mentioned a  wallet,cell phone, etc and then responds by the appropriate movement.
Dont know if  its  being done but its a thought-WW


  • Guest
Re: Expecting guns where there are none
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2012, 02:30:53 PM »

wvnicholson, you might want to search here: and subscribe to their newsletter.  There is a lot of properly executed studies.

This report is very well done, offering a glimpse into the neuroplasticity of the brain, hence, human behavior.  The old sayings that go: "We see only what we want to see..." and "We see what we are prepared or expected to see..." are true.  This study confirms these folksy wisdoms.  The brain develops its specific schematics to which new schematics are needed to replace them, but first the old ones must be "unlearned."

This is why target discrimination becomes so imperative when training upper level shooters, and is something not everyone has the ability to engage to the level of few no to whom is the target.  Shoot!  NO shoot!  Demands variable and random training paradigms involving high risk.  Few commercial venues are able to approach this expensive and demanding training.

And when we start looking into "FEAR," well that is an entirely different ball of wax which engages social indoctrination, genetic predisposition, personal experiences and on-going learning paradigms, i.e., professional level training with trainers who understand said variables and create the training paradigm addressing de-senitization and unlearning prior to the learning paradigm is engaged.