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Author Topic: Cold Steel Rubber Training Knives  (Read 5721 times)

SIGnoramus

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Cold Steel Rubber Training Knives
« on: August 03, 2011, 10:49:48 AM »

Has anyone used these for training disarms? The reviews I have seen say that the blade is more rigid than a typical rubber training knife. I just wonder if it's rigid enough for training disarms. Any opinions?

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Re: Cold Steel Rubber Training Knives
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2011, 10:57:04 AM »

Really not sturdy enough

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Re: Cold Steel Rubber Training Knives
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2011, 10:59:00 AM »

Thanks, Hock. I had to ask because of the cheap price. I suspected they wouldn't be suitable, but I thought I'd ask anyway.
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Re: Cold Steel Rubber Training Knives
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2011, 12:11:36 PM »

I think it depends on what disarm.  I use them all the time, but there are certain disarms that require pressure on the flat of the blade that these are unsuitable for.

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Re: Cold Steel Rubber Training Knives
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2011, 12:21:36 PM »

Hey Kentbob,

It is the flat of the blade disarms in particular that I was referring to. I'm trying to find the least expensive solution for a training knife with realistic appearance (including a discernible "grind" for edge awareness), sturdy enough to be used in disarm drills, and realistic weight and handling characteristics. I've looked at "blue knives", Sharkee trainers, TAK knives, NOK trainers, Bogner blades, etc. It looks as though I'm going to have to bite the bullet and buy a few aluminum trainers to get all of the characteristics I'm looking for; it's just that most of them cost a little more than I was looking to spend right now.

Thanks for your reply,

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Re: Cold Steel Rubber Training Knives
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2011, 07:58:02 PM »

I ordered the training knife offered here, since i have adopted carrying liner lock instead of a rocker.  Spyderco has them but much more expensive. Hock's trainers fit the bill. I carry tip down left side for a reverse draw and standard righty draw and grip on my right side. They will be good for my drills to index, draw and open, and make contact in one fluid motion.
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Re: Cold Steel Rubber Training Knives
« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2011, 12:44:08 AM »

I'll go out on a limb here...if you want real feel with a trainer, take a cheapo full tang Made in China knife and grind down the edge.  Or any older knife of your choice for that matter.  Don't spend big money on the metal trainers, its just not worth it for a small part of training.  Great for controlled knife work, but the rubber blades are really meant for force training and such.  I use an old Ontario Mark 3 Navy knife as my real feel trainer, great for post work too.  Good luck and train safe.
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Re: Cold Steel Rubber Training Knives
« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2011, 02:38:20 PM »

Many years ago, I stuck Hock good with a ground-down knife (Spyderco).    He bled like a stuck pig, we finished out the demo and then he cried about it for days after....big baby.


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Re: Cold Steel Rubber Training Knives
« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2011, 05:01:47 PM »

Good advice Professor...and good story too.  I'd stay away from folders or thin blades for grinding.  These trainers are pretty cheap, and safer, but doing disarms with them can taco the lock pretty quick.
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Re: Cold Steel Rubber Training Knives
« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2011, 07:15:30 PM »

Thanks for the replies. I have both the trainer offered here on Hock's site and a Spyderco Delica 4 trainer. I enjoy using the Delica trainer since I carry a live Delica 4 every day, but I like to train disarms with something larger to begin with and then transition to the folders after I become more skilled at the technique with the larger trainer.
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Re: Cold Steel Rubber Training Knives
« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2011, 10:50:42 PM »

Only a sissy would train disarms on anything less than a running chainsaw.
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Re: Cold Steel Rubber Training Knives
« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2011, 10:33:40 AM »

Not the best, but pretty decent (and they do specialty orders--you can send a tracing of your blade and they can make a training model).  Some of their stuff is a bit less useful in my opinion, but I like their knives.  I was turned on to these by Kelly Worden.
I have used the Cold Steel regularly, but I notice that they tend to soften with use and become far less functional over time.
Anyway, here are TAK Knives:
http://takknife.com/
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