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 on: November 18, 2012, 12:50:26 PM 
Started by Hock - Last post by Professor
I have many things that I could/should/would say.  I was an observer of this time of your career Hock.

Let me simply say, if you doubt the above give me a ring - I'm easy to get ahold of . . .

I'll use this post as a placeholder for a future "if needed" piece...

 on: November 01, 2012, 12:10:26 PM 
Started by Hock - Last post by Hock
People using my name?

Every once in a while I post something here in the business section when I get a little fed up or amused with people wrongly using my name to advance themselves and their agendas. For example, like right now, there's a wanna-be Italian knife person claiming that I have asked him to make knife training movies for me to sell, and make him an international star. Total stranger. Never had this conversation.

Sometimes these people using my name are total strangers and sometimes they are not. Like Gary Dill….

In 1997, I retired from the police department and I did something else too. I retired from all the martial arts systems I was “hooked” up with, or paying dues to. There was quite a number of them, and in total, my annual dues and fees to this-or-that organization, yearly and/or monthly were quite high.  I said my goodbyes to all of them in 1997 and frankly, some of the goodbyes were personal and critical advice given for those people and their organizations to improve themselves and their businesses. Some of this was needed "tough-love."

Only Remy Presas was the most helpful and supportive of my ideas for tactical/practical systems free of old regimentation. One night we sat together in my house inventing names for the new courses. Everyone else was irked that I dare "leave them" and I would stop sending them money.

These connections go way back. Bear with me because there is a reason why I will do this review. You'll quickly see. I started martial arts in 1972 in Ed Parker Kenpo. Then was off to the Army. I graduated Basic Training and then the Military Police Academy.  Got out and became involved with Karate and Jujitsu. In 1986 I met people with JKD Concepts and was totally engrossed by it. By the time the 1990s rolled around, I was obsessively studying multiple systems and martial arts. Studied and hosted people for years like Paul Vunak and Terry Gibson and Larry Harstell and even seen “Dan the Man” Inosanto every chance I could. I had also attended various classes and seminars by Ben Mangels, police and military survival and tactical schools. There was the Thai Boxing. The Silat. Modern Arnis. Arnis de Mano. Muchado.  Small Circle Jujitsu. Remy Presas and Ernesto Presas - and both brothers were really major, MAJOR influences in my training. I have been to the Philippines multiple times on extended training trips.

Ask anyone who knew me, I was a junkie for ALL this stuff. I attended all kinds of seminars with whoever I could get to. In summary, I collected a lot of striking, kicking, trapping, locking, kickboxing, takedowns, ground fighting, stick, knife and gun materials before 1991.
JKD. In 1986, I started the JKD world, via the Guro Dan Inosanto systems. Then in 1991 - this brings us over to the so-called “Original” Jeet Kune Do. I am still very close to Tim Tackett, and well…I love the guy like an uncle, but I just don’t officially teach Jeet Kune Do, you know? I leave that to the real JKD experts who really care about it all. (I do have several rankings in JKD, but decline in listing them for several reasons. I certainly don't mind mentioned the late, great Terry Gibson, but others? No.)

In this large mix of people and seminars I attended…in 1991 or 92 or so there is Gary Dill from the Oakland JKD connection. He was a James Lee student (for how long exactly is debatable for many folks). He was just up the road from me in Oklahoma. Also an ex-cop. So I also started up with Gary Dill inside the mix of all these other instructors and systems.

Very quickly, I began teaching Filipino Martial Arts for Dill, to his people. But In 1997, I shipped-off/retired from Dill also. I did not single him out. I resigned from everyone and system. I just needed OUT from all dogma! I haven’t seen Gary Dill since about October, 1996. What’s that…about 26 plus years ago by now (2021)?

That is why I find it odd and funny when I occasionally hear from people that Gary Dill goes around and claims he has taught me…“everything that I know.” I have heard this once and awhile for about 20 some-odd years now and I would just shake my head, smile and ignore this silliness. Just recently while in Italy, I was told this quote again by an JKD instructor who smiled at me and then awaited my response, like he knew the truth anyway. 
“I taught Hock Hochheim everything he knows,” says Gary Dill. 

So, in that 6 or so years between 1991 and 1997, in these occasional Dill seminars - Dill taught me everything that I know? Given my overall "pre-Dill" history, during Dill history, and then post-Dill history, this is obviously preposterous. Dill is a bit of an odd and no one stays with him for long. But, Dill is also very flippant and a very braggadocios person. If you know him, then you know his type of behavior and his remarks are utterly, totally…and sadly, ever so predictable.

I had a lot of fun hanging out with Dill off and on through those 6 or so years. He is a real..."unique"... character. I did! And the people I met were all really good folks. Just really great to hang out with. I just will say no more about that.

But, I will park this little observation here on the forum, buried deep away in case anyone ever searches on the rare, oddball subject/statement  of Gary Dill “teaching me everything that I know,” just for the cosmic record. (I know no one really cares about this. For years even I laughed it off, until I heard it as far away ITALY!)

I never think of Dill anymore, but if I did, I would like to think he is doing well for himself and a happy, friendly guy, like the "first" Dill I remember from the early 90s. I saw a picture of him the other day and he looks healthier than ever. Good for him. And just leave it at that. Even though he has told people (one my good friend) in a bar in San Antonio, that ...

"Hock Hochheim is one of the five people I'd like to see dead." is the actual quote. Yikes! Huh?

But I honestly don't feel that way about him at all. I wish him zero ill will, stability and success. I think he thinks, or thought at the time, I was too important to his operation. I wasn't and I'm not.

I will say the best Aiki-Jitsu demonstration I have ever seen in my life, I saw Gary do back in the 90s. And I participated in Gary Dill's "Grandmaster/10th Dan" test in a Grandmaster deal in Florida and I thought he did a terrific job. He had to present his entire martial system and demonstrate and answer whatever the board of Grandmasters asked. I thought he did great. If you want to see some material from the James Lee Oakland school, maybe you should check him out? If not? Then whatever. Let it go.
But...if you ever hear the line that Gary Dill has taught me everything that I know?


 on: February 22, 2012, 07:16:11 AM 
Started by Professor - Last post by whitewolf
Professor  thanks for sharing this-what i am doing is essentually the same as you posted-i explain demo then we practise it alone then with a partner while i watch and correct-i also tell them (which seems to work) if they have prior knowledge in a system intergrat it into what we are doing-i try to split up the hour class into 15 minute segments
1st-basic reaction and block/strike alone and with partner
2nd-how to strike with palm/fist or use of elbow-3rd-hitting the kicking shield 3rd-self defense technigues
4th-discuss and pracrtise a particular response to a weapon or use of a expedient wpn
I also advise they need to take a self defense course where they participate more than one or 2 times (I teach at a athletic club and many take 1 or 2 classes and go bck to just exersising) WW

 on: February 22, 2012, 06:39:47 AM 
Started by Professor - Last post by Professor
(I've edited slightly)

Effective Training in Four Easy Steps

Teaching seems easy, until you have 40 students looking to you for “the information” that they want and need.  Fifteen plus years of teaching teachers, and ten plus years of teaching has taught me that there are easier choices in life.   But few more rewarding!   

Martial artist, soldier, police officers and other professionals enter the teaching/training field because someone thought enough of their previous experience to give them a chance.   Teachers/trainers stay in the professions because others value their information.  The teachers/trainers that you personally remember in life valued the profession enough to not only train in their subject matter content area, but also in the delivery of the information.

The teaching methodology shown here is based on the 4MAT system.  This teaching system is well research and accommodates all learners.    The theoretical underpinning are solid, the method is simple.   What more can a teacher/trainer desire in a teaching methodology?

In this methodology, we “move around the clock” beginning at 12 o’clock:


It never fails a student interrupts my happy thoughts and ask, “Why do I need to learn this?”   The question that they are really wanting to ask:  Why did you waste a valuable portion of my life teaching me this #)@&%)& stuff when I’m never going to encounter it outside of your made-up world.   Ah, the joys of teaching.  Why fight it?   

First, and always, answer this basic question of yourself:  Why am I teaching this to my student?  The best strategy I have found to answering this question is to act as a motivator/witness/storyteller.   In the first step, tell a story; describe an instance that happened to you, happened to someone else, or an instance that might happen.  Do your research.  This provides a context for learning.    The learner can then answer the “Why?” question for themselves and can begin to learn from you without THE nagging question.  As much as people say they want “THE ANSWER”, they always are ready for a good story!


You’ve now setup the student for learning.  The next step is to provide the answers.  The teacher/trainer is most comfortable delivering information.  In technical training, the instructor has two types of information to provide:  background information/theory and step-by step instructions.  The instructor’s role in this step is simply as a teacher.   In step-by-step instruction, deliver one method for accomplishing the task at a time.  This step provides students an opportunity to see the methodology modeled correctly.   If all learners understand the method provided, it is then time to provide optional steps as appropriate. 


This step is easy!  Practice! Practice! Practice!   

Provide your students the opportunity to practice the methodology that is you have taught to them.   Your role is as coach/skilled-guide.  All of us learn through trial and error.   It is now the student’s turn to take over the classroom responsibilities.  Coaching good … Teaching bad.    It is the teacher’s job to fade into the background an only come out when their skilled opinion is needed.


Let students teach it to themselves.  In this step, the teacher is reliant on self-discovery.   The teacher’s role is now transformed into an evaluator/remediator.  This step is VERY often left out in the learning process and is the very important.  Your clock is not yet complete without this step.  In this step the teacher allows students to explore the newly taught materials.  I personally learn a lot when student are exploring techniques.   

In this step, the teacher is the person that then gets to ask “Why?”.  This is a pleasant role reversal for the teacher and many students begin to better understand the learning process.

The Cycle

But, I don’t have time to do this in my class…you ask too much!  Of course you have enough time!   The time spent in each step is not important (10 seconds, 1 minute, 10 minutes).  The fact that you have spent some time on each step is important.   I find that this process is largely subconscious in outstanding instructors.   Each of these steps should be used for every instructional session.  Move around the clock with the four step and enjoy effective instruction.

 on: May 29, 2011, 06:01:17 PM 
Started by Hock - Last post by VicMackey
It never ceases to amaze me how much others would spend for a fancy car, luxury house, beautiful vacation, high speed computer, big screen TV, expensive video games, etc. yet not willing to spend some money on an effective self-defense program or a high quality firearm that may save their life someday. I guess we all have our priorities in life and we get what we pay for.

 on: April 20, 2011, 11:57:02 AM 
Started by Hock - Last post by Hock
I did not write this. Don't know who did. But is is good info to digest. - Hock

Four Principles of Interpersonal Communication

These principles underlie the workings in real life of interpersonal communication. They are basic to communication. We can't ignore them

Interpersonal communication is inescapable
We can't not communicate. The very attempt not to communicate communicates something. Through not only words, but through tone of voice and through gesture, posture, facial expression, etc., we constantly communicate to those around us. Through these channels, we constantly receive communication from others. Even when you sleep, you communicate. Remember a basic principle of communication in general: people are not mind readers. Another way to put this is: people judge you by your behavior, not your intent.

Interpersonal communication is irreversible
You can't really take back something once it has been said. The effect must inevitably remain. Despite the instructions from a judge to a jury to "disregard that last statement the witness made," the lawyer knows that it can't help but make an impression on the jury. A Russian proverb says, "Once a word goes out of your mouth, you can never swallow it again."

Interpersonal communication is complicated
No form of communication is simple. Because of the number of variables involved, even simple requests are extremely complex. Theorists note that whenever we communicate there are really at least six "people" involved: 1) who you think you are; 2) who you think the other person is; 30 who you think the other person thinks you are; 4) who the other person thinks /she is; 5) who the other person thinks you are; and 6) who the other person thinks you think s/he is.

    We don't actually swap ideas, we swap symbols that stand for ideas. This also complicates communication. Words (symbols) do not have inherent meaning; we simply use them in certain ways, and no two people use the same word exactly alike.


    Osmo Wiio gives us some communication maxims similar to Murphy's law (Osmo Wiio, Wiio's Laws--and Some Others (Espoo, Finland: Welin-Goos, 1978):

    * If communication can fail, it will.
    * If a message can be understood in different ways, it will be understood in
       just that way which does the most harm.
    * There is always somebody who knows better than you what you meant by
       your message.
    * The more communication there is, the more difficult it is for communication
       to succeed.

      These tongue-in-cheek maxims are not real principles; they simply humorously remind us of the difficulty of accurate communication. (See also A commentary of Wiio's laws by Jukka Korpela.)


Interpersonal communication is contextual
In other words, communication does not happen in isolation. There is:

    * Psychological context, which is who you are and what you bring to the interaction.
       Your needs, desires, values, personality, etc., all form the psychological context.
       ("You" here refers to both participants in the interaction.)

    * Relational context, which concerns your reactions to the other person--the "mix."

    * Situational context deals with the psycho-social "where" you are communicating.
       An interaction that takes place in a classroom will be very different from one that
       takes place in a bar.

    * Environmental context deals with the physical "where" you are communicating.
       Furniture, location, noise level, temperature, season, time of day, all are examples
       of factors in the environmental context.

    * Cultural context includes all the learned behaviors and rules that affect the
       interaction. If you come from a culture (foreign or within your own country) where
       it is considered rude to make long, direct eye contact, you will out of politeness
       avoid eye contact. If the other person comes from a culture where long, direct eye
       contact signals trustworthiness, then we have in the cultural context a basis for

 on: April 20, 2011, 09:33:23 AM 
Started by Hock - Last post by whitewolf
Nice- WW

 on: April 18, 2011, 09:24:34 AM 
Started by Hock - Last post by Hock
From Jeff Burger, an attendee at the Rhode island seminar last weekend. Jeff is high ranking BJJ player and Thai Boxer - vet of living in Thailand....

I love the sport and competition aspects of the martial arts, it keeps me challenged. That being said I feel every martial artist is obligated to spend sometime learning how his or her art differs from reality.

This past weekend was my first time training with Hock Hochheim at Derderian Academy of Martial Arts in Rhode Island. Hock covers a lot of bases empty hand, knife, stick, gun, mis-matched weapons, drawing the weapon for speed as well as under stress..... it goes on and on.

One thing I was really happy to see in a combatives class was martial arts. Yea that sounds weird, you would think that combatives / self defense means martial arts. Sadly nowadays there is a battle going on between sport vs combat martial arts. This has made for a bad separation for both parties.

One of the most important things I look for in a teacher is ability to communicate the information, just because you can do does not mean you know how to teach. To be a good teacher you have to really understand the material, understand how people learn and be able to organize the material.

Hock is one of those good teachers. Example - He took us through the old Hubud drill and kept it simple through a logical progression and in a very short time made the advanced easy to do.

For years I have heard MMA and "reality" fighters trash these types of martial arts drills as useless.

You can do it, you can do it on them, you can show how another fighter used it and you can even show them how they have used it themselves and they will still argue against it.

"Learn all you can from the mistakes of others.  You won't have time to make them all yourself."   ~Alfred Sheinwold

Experience is the best teacher, so besides getting your own find a teacher who has it. If you are doing sport then you want someone who has been in that sport, you would not go to a wrestling coach for boxing lessons or vice versa.

For self defense / combatives an experienced teacher is crucial. There are far too many arm chair warriors, wannabes and fakes trying to make a buck out there.

Unfortunately most of the people with real fight experience are dead or criminals. Finding someone alive with enough brain matter left to understand what the lesson was in what happened is no easy task. Myself I try to look to LEOs (Law Enforcement Officers), military (the older the better) and the few martial arts styles I can still repsect.  HocK fills all those categories.

My favorite part of the seminar was Hock himself. I would pay the same price just to hear him tell stories all weekend. He has a big personality, a sick sense of humor and he does not hold much back on his opinions.

I go to seminars for three reasons.

   1. To learn new material.
   2. Stay motivated.
   3. Meet like minded people.

I walked away with plenty of new material.

I really like the things that are so simple and so obvious that we just do not see them and I got a couple of those. I'm looking forward to doing some stick work with people real soon. (insert evil grin)

I see some bad elements growing out of the MMA and "reality fighting" craze and I fear for the future of martial arts. Too many gyms are trying to be bad ass factories and they have lost the soul of martial arts training.

Raffi Derderian Academy of Martial Arts has a great group of people. Your dojo, kwoon, gym should feel like your extended family, a brotherhood, clan, tribe whatever you want to call it. It was nice to be in that dojo atmosphere of learning and sharing.

Thank you Hock Hochheim for sharing your knowledge and thank you Sifu Raffi Derderian for bring these types of instructors to your school.

(and thank you back Jeff)

 on: October 29, 2010, 11:41:14 AM 
Started by Hock - Last post by Hock
To read again

 on: July 12, 2010, 10:37:23 AM 
Started by Hock - Last post by Hock
Yeah that sounds like the "elephant in the room" theme, used when people are ignoring a big problem.


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