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 on: December 11, 2015, 02:59:35 PM 
Started by ghostrider - Last post by Hock
OODA. Really overblown, over high-lighted subject.

I mean every sports player does that naturally. You want to fake the opponent out. You fake...there...."boom." OODA loop explained. But without fancy hi-tech terms and an over intricate diagram that resembles a submarine blueprint. So fancy and tech that you forget you knew this from playing tag as a small child.

Some people just salivate over stuff like this. Others not so much.
It was treated that way when introduced in the Air Force by John Boyd in military meetings/slideshows years ago Half the people salivated, the other half said, "what am I doing here?"

It is used all too much, as a "pop" subject, to sound "all in the know" and cool.


 on: December 10, 2015, 11:13:44 PM 
Started by ghostrider - Last post by ghostrider
I have heard and read up on the subject of the OODA loop. But now I would like to get hock's take on this subject. I value his take and knowledge overall the others who discuss this.

 on: December 07, 2015, 03:10:12 PM 
Started by Hock - Last post by Hock
      " first, real taste in trying to understand this confusion  was when basic training, US Army instructors in 1973 would say, “this is how they will try to kill you.” Then, the  military police academy had similar phrases and one time, one instructor said, “this is how they will try to kill you Saturday night.”

     Saturday night? You mean this Saturday night? This really caused me to pay much closer attention to the instruction. And in both courses, they taught actual attacks used by the local enemy or the local criminal. They advised us that when we got to our assigned stations there would even be more training on how the locals worked and assaulted us. It was also the first time I heard the phrase “who, what, when, where, how and why,” in conjunction with police work. Who is coming after me on Saturday night, anyway? What will they do exactly? Etc, etc  on the ”Ws and H” questions I still use today. And what about Wednesday nights too? Can’t forget them..."

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 on: November 23, 2015, 02:46:06 AM 
Started by Hock - Last post by Hock
      "So-called "stick fighting? We have, I have, organized the Force Necessary: Stick! course two decades ago. Then, inside the other course we have - the PAC Course, the Pacific Archipelago Combatives and Filipino course, there is also more "stick fighting." So, I really teach two different kinds of "stick fighting." A "street" one, if you will and a martial arts one, again if you will. The street one will easily fit inside the martial arts one. However, the martial arts one will not fit inside the street one, and has way more stuff in it to satisfy...well..the art and multi-cultural aspects of the historical use of the stick. This is not something I "love." It is just something I know a lot about and do, and small groups of people ask me about it. Thus, the most efficient doctrine evolves.

     Interested people ask if its all just "stick fighting?" What exactly is stick fighting to you? To a martial artist it is a lot of stick-versus-stick dueling. To a cop or self defense seeker, it is just about survival self defense, or used for arrest, control and contain in the security, police and military world..."

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 on: November 04, 2015, 11:26:26 PM 
Started by Hock - Last post by Hock
 Terrible, Terrible, Mistaken Knife Grips

     About 20 years ago, I wrote some magazine articles about what I dubbed as The Cancer Grip of the knife. Its a saber grip, as in "the sharp end of the knife sticks out of the top of the hand." You would think people would know this but some don't. Anyway, I kept seeing some of the biggest names in Filipino Martial Arts slashing, stabbing in the air like mad, followed by their students, with this Cancer Grip. This is when the ball of the thumb and the thumb is up off the knife. You can't stab, you can't slash, you can't cut a steak this way, and while dueling its an easy knock-out disarm. Yet many "FMA Gods" were slipping in and out of this grip in photos, films and teaching. There is even an entire Filipino knife system (not a popular one, I might add) that only uses the thumbs-up grip. Not good. And practitioners in training are still simulated stabs and slashes with these grips. Not changing grips.

     This is an "international" problem. A now rather famous American knife guy, on the cover of his first knife book years ago was, and unfortunately still, is shown stabbing someone with this worthless grip - just mindlessly replicating the big boys. He knows better now. Folks, you need the ball of the thumb and the thumb to hold the knife to stab and slash, to even cut a peanut butter and jelly sandwich...."

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 on: November 02, 2015, 04:07:29 AM 
Started by Hock - Last post by Hock
       Here are some very random thoughts on the car problem. There have been some studies done on car jacking. I have seen some martial systems try to solve the crime. Car jackers usually start on the outside of your car. Most car jacking fights start there or with the door open. But what if he gets inside? Or was inside? Some guys I know of teach what appears to be full out wrestling inside the car's vehicle interior. This problem means that a bad guy was either hiding in your car, or is already in the car and he turns on you. Or, he forced his way completely in somehow. Can happen. Should be considered.
     An interior fight ensues in these demos I’ve seen, and I mean some full-out, rough wrestling - neither participant though, not even the presumed, probably untrained street thug, bad-guy-actor, threw a single blow of any kind. Not an a short elbow or a short punch, hammer fist, etc. Nothing to the eyes or throat, dare I even mention.
      When I mentioned this to a group once, another guy, a martial arts vet, basically said there was no sense at all in striking because in those close quarters you couldn't get enough force to do any good. HUH? Then he quickly told me that it was obvious I knew nothing about grappling. As much as to say if I knew even an iota of grappling, I wouldn’t raise such a stupid, stupid idea...

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 on: November 02, 2015, 04:05:49 AM 
Started by Hock - Last post by Hock
     Yes, the USA has a LOT of gun courses. Even in the most anti-gun states, there are still a lot of gun courses available. You can throw a small rock in the USA and hit somebody somewhere fairly nearby with a shooting course.

     In the states, there are some places you can go to where you can rent just any gun they have and you can shoot for awhile (and they clean it! My favorite part.) Tons of places, and by and large, I would estimate that most of the instructors for courses over here are okay. Just fine usually. Through the years there is an overall, general collection of a good, basic gun knowledge in the USA that everyone seems to know about. (Yes, there are some knuckleheads).

     If I see any problem in the U.S., many are consumed with minutia and love arguing about that small stuff. A lot of discussion is spent not “driving the car,” but rather arguing about “small engine mechanics.” Reviewing experts/psychologist that look into this gun minutia situation call it too much, “internal focus.” (now watch the arguers argue over this point.)

 on: November 02, 2015, 04:04:11 AM 
Started by Hock - Last post by Hock
     These last few years, this sort of tip-off information has been such a big deal, and a big selling point for the so-called "reality based" courses. Some younger folks have been considered sheer genius for spouting off these old, classic aspects in seminars as though they were P.H.D.s of some new, modern psychology? But this information is quite old. It was taught to me in the 1970s at police academies. I've collected it all and it is in my teaching outlines since the 90s and in my Training Mission One book published back in 2001.

    Now, I do not want you to over-emphasis this information as some kind of cure. Just read over the list and keep it mind. The list was created and I repeated it here because these events have happened. Many I have seen before dealing with people for 26 years in this upset and angry, drugged or drunk "people business."

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 on: October 25, 2015, 05:14:00 AM 
Started by Hock - Last post by Hock
Knife Combat - Knife Takedowns - 2 parts by Hock Hochheim
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Knife Takedowns covers takedowns with and while holding a knife. For the unenlightened, unsophisticated and untrained, it is hard to grasp the idea of grappling and takedowns while holding a knife. The sarcastic joke is just to "stab the person until he falls!" Not that simple. Not that crude. In the real and troubled world of fighting criminals and enemy soldiers there are a host of reasons and means why a defender must take an opponent to the ground for lethal and less-than-lethal ends. What are these?
Learn these reasons and means:
- How the "tenacity of life" keeps them on their feet
- How the "diminished fighter" can be grappled.
- Learn the basic knife takedown principles.
- Learn the Takedown Body Chart.
- Learn the Joint Crank and Joint Lock Progression and how and why knife applications may or may not work with them.
- Learn numerous knife combat scenarios involving grappling skills.

Knife Takedowns and Grappling represents Level 8 in Hock's Knife Fighting Series.

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 on: October 24, 2015, 03:18:11 AM 
Started by Hock - Last post by Hock
Knife - Speed, Flow and Skill Exercises and Drills - by W. Hock Hochheim (This is the first video of a two video set on this subject.) Hock teaches the classic speed, flow and skill knife drills that originate from various military and martial arts sources. They are all here for you, demystified, simplified and dissected in the way Hock is famous for worldwide. Learn the patterns and insert, 1/2 beat options. Here they are all together in one place. Hock took the time to demo many other drill/exercise formats and their options and inserts that have never been filmed before.

- Dodge/Evasion Edged Weapon Exercises
- Statue Knife Exercises
- Critical Contact Knife Exercises
- Grip Changer Exercises
- Counters to Common Blocks and the Outside Invasion Knife Series
- Panananstas Saber vs. Reverse Knife Workout
- Windmill Exercises (vertical and horizontal circles, chains and hubads)
- Give and Take Knife Exercises
- Sumbrada Knife Exercises
- Ground applications for all of the above
- Learn well over one hundred inserts, tips and advice

"These are isolated exercises as well as complete drill patterns. They prepare you for the encounter. I am NOT a fan of over-drilling at all, especially at the expense of other important training! So, I won't be emphasizing those aspects. 'All roads lead to Rome' and all these exercises lead to the combat scenario." - Hock Hochheim

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